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FD OTF in Multiway Pot

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Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $5.67 (113.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.63 (112.6 bb)
UTG: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $8.94 (178.8 bb)
CO: $4.33 (86.6 bb)
BTN: $5.18 (103.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A J
CO posts BB OOP, 2 folds, CO checks, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.10, SB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47) 3 7 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.33, CO calls $0.33, SB raises to $1.45, Hero calls $1.12, CO folds

Turn: ($3.70) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $1.05, Hero calls $1.05

River: ($5.80) A (2 players)
SB bets $3.02 and is all-in, Hero ?

I would like to hear some comments about my play during whole streets, especially the final decision OTR.
For me it looks like he was bluffing villain (22/13 over 133) 3bet OTF with possibly FD, the small bet OTT looks like he was trying to save his spot of missed FD, i feel like this was the spot for me to shove, since OTR he shoved as pretending FD or Ax, what would be your play?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Raise bigger preflop, you have 2 limpers in front - 0.25-0.30 is fine. With limp/callers in the hand cbetting low board is optimistic as there is little if no FE there.

Th flop raise can also be set, that wants to charge FDs.
As played I am not calling the river.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

With limp/callers in the hand cbetting low board is optimistic as there is little if no FE there.

I am cbeting here, because even when lower hand hwich are not A or J fold, its good, we protect our equity, like vs KQ, which has probably about 20 %.

Vs pairs we have so much equity with overcards and nut flush draw also, that it not needed that they would fold right now I think. Vs worse fds we get value.

Then if they do not raise, I am continuing to barrel turn, and river some of time also barreling blank river. Not sure should I do when turn is paired, becayse most likely he will have 7x or missed FD. So we should win fair amount of time just by checking with A high.

I think I am playin same way, SB looked strong, so no fold equity after he raises, so just call. On river I fold, for same reason - I do not believe that often he will have a bluff after using such line.


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kriko92
Joined: 16.11.2010

Originally posted by BigBadW
For me it looks like he was bluffing villain (22/13 over 133)

These stats don't indicate that he is likely to bluff at all. If anything, it's more likely he is passive. That said, preflop aggression is different than postflop aggression so you should look at the postflop stats for that sample.

Originally posted by BigBadW
3bet OTF with possibly FD

When he reraises flop, he is usually very strong. He has all the sets, 75s and 46s in his range because of preflop play and most of the FDs will just call against two people (he also doesn't have many good FDs as your hand blocks some of them).

Originally posted by BigBadW
the small bet OTT looks like he was trying to save his spot of missed FD

Or he hits the nuts (33/55/77/75s) and now bets small because he isn't scared of draws anymore. River is snapfold as you don't beat a single hand.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Bet bigger pre. As played fold OTR. I think calling that flop raise is a bit borderline call. OTT every set improved to full house so our flush outs are not necessarily alive so I think calling turn is a bit questionable too?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

And the small turn bet looks like he is trying to milk what is left of FDs.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol
And the small turn bet looks like he is trying to milk what is left of FDs.

Yes it does.


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Pistoleroo
Joined: 06.02.2015

- Raise bigger pré

- Check flop. Expecting to have alot of fold equity on this board is way too optimistic.

- Turn Looking at the agression and the player pool ur probably dead at this turn. Might be nitty but u could even fold against this price.

- River is a clear fold. U only beat bluffs. Which he doesn't have in his range.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

With what hands you will call river?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol
With what hands you will call river?

AA :f_drink:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Quite narroe. Include 33, 77, 55...
But will there be anything else?


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andzaze
Joined: 17.04.2010

Multiway on low,connected board at NL5 where people dont fold much, my default play would be to x/c and re-evaluate on T


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You cannot xcall as you are IP here.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

kriko92 said what i think is the most important aspect of the hand: villain tendencies posflop.
Without them, we have to go w the population tendencies, and la55i is right when saying our draws for flush are no longer purely alive.


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