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5$ CO A7o 10BB v 2limpers

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VardaiFerenc
Joined: 02.10.2011

UTG+2 29h 31/4 In a previous hand he limp/fold against me.
MP1 55h 30/11

Pacific, $4.50 Buy-in (2,250/4,500 blinds, 550 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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SB: 10,331 (2.3 bb)
BB: 145,110 (32.2 bb)
UTG+2: 62,099 (13.8 bb)
MP1: 45,564 (10.1 bb)
MP2: 44,550 (9.9 bb)
MP3: 39,128 (8.7 bb)
Hero (CO): 49,227 (10.9 bb)
BTN: 105,670 (23.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A 7
UTG+2 calls 4,500, MP1 calls 4,500, 2 folds, Hero ?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

This is most likely a tournament as well. So I moved it to the appropriate board as well.

Both players have fishy stats. So I would shove here as well with a lot of dead money in it.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

Because of the big antes and 2 fishy limpers, I think it is fine to shove here with the small stack. You have the chance of picking up 19k for free, so I would shove here anytime


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Yep, good opportunity to shove.
There is the dead money mentioned, and I dont think they can defend much w 30+ of vpip.


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cccpXIRNMD
Joined: 08.02.2006

hi,

first of all from the side of the limpers. of course its a horrible move from their site , other then they are trapping with KK,AA. it should be clear that with these stack sizes the only move left is all in or fold.

i would actually fold in this spot.
of course its tempting to push here as both we and our oppentents are pretty short.
however, fish dont often fold that easily in these spots.
they dont realize that they need to push preflop, but if somebody pushes behind they often do call
with facecards or a pair. also the problem is that after the 1st player calls, the 2nd is also inclided to call.
and we rist our tournament life with only A7o.

if you give yourself enough fold equity in this spot you can definately push. i dont .

the problem is also that fish love to limp Ax hands. often we are way behind vs A8+
vs all pairs we are also behind. we are just a slight favourte vs face card combinations.

i would wait for a better spot to shove. but dont wait to long. the biggest mistak you can make in mtts
is to let youself get blinded out so that even a double up still lets you stay in the danger zone


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by cccpXIRNMD
the biggest mistak you can make in mtts
is to let youself get blinded out so that even a double up still lets you stay in the danger zone

Truth. And for me, hero is about that limit already. 10bbs he goes to 20bbs (or even more in this case). If he let the stack go below that, lets say 7 bbs, when he doubles he ll still have just 14, and having to double up again to survive.


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