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zauberini
Joined: 08.12.2015

partypoker - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 284.7 BB (VPIP: 14.15, PFR: 11.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 512)
SB: 65.1 BB (VPIP: 12.66, PFR: 7.85, 3Bet Preflop: 1.48, Hands: 398)
BB: 38 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 2.69, 3Bet Preflop: 1.71, Hands: 325)
UTG: 61.7 BB (VPIP: 74.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 75)
UTG+1: 27.5 BB (VPIP: 15.22, PFR: 13.66, 3Bet Preflop: 5.36, Hands: 185)
Hero (MP): 100 BB
MP+1: 85.9 BB (VPIP: 21.70, PFR: 12.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 107)
MP+2: 49.5 BB (VPIP: 41.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
CO: 114.7 BB (VPIP: 31.54, PFR: 16.11, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 149)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♣ T♦

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 3 BB, BTN raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

Flop: (37.5 BB, 3 players) Q♣ T♠ 7♦
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 17.8 BB, Hero calls 17.8 BB, fold

Turn: (73.1 BB, 2 players) 6♦
Hero bets 34.7 BB, BTN raises to 254.9 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 35.5 BB and is all-in

River: (213.5 BB, 2 players) K♠


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xin1575
Joined: 22.10.2015

My only issue with your line is that I think you need to either donk out on the flop or check-raise. If we look at villain's stats, he looks like a tight player and with 0% 3bet, this is very likely to be AA or KK. So you can get stacks in on the flop. Regardless, you end up getting the stacks in on the Turn, which it fine too. I expect you to be very much ahead here...possibly sucked out on the river


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yes, mw I prefer donking, but as played I do not like the call on flop. We've hit and we give CO great odds to stay and hit. We should raise solid there.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Donking here I think u show more weakness than other lines... so thats interesting for ur hand.
What villain had?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

QQ :)


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

where did u saw it?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Just making my guess.

p.s. Where DID you SEE it...


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Thats a good guess. Thanks for correcting me _thumbsup:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

It can be even uglier - KK :)


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zauberini
Joined: 08.12.2015

ye QQ...

but going broke here is okay it seems, right?


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

The KK would be nasty. Hero zauberini dont deserve that hahaha


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by zauberini
ye QQ...

but going broke here is okay it seems, right?

With ur stack left, totally.
If u was deep too, like villain, u can (and is good to) find a fold.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

You should donk here. If not then at least check raise. As played going broke is totally fine.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by zauberini
ye QQ...

but going broke here is okay it seems, right?

I knew it. :)
Of course you should go broke here. Do not bother much.


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oI2ange
Joined: 21.07.2015

You played this fine, check/shoving the turn is also a very viable plan. As you move higher in stakes, you'll probably donk bet the turn less often, just because you won't do it much with your entire range.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

Originally posted by oI2ange
You played this fine, check/shoving the turn is also a very viable plan. As you move higher in stakes, you'll probably donk bet the turn less often, just because you won't do it much with your entire range.

Yep, when donking turn u sometimes act like facing ur cards up... so generally checking ll be the option (having a great hand or not).


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by oI2ange
You played this fine, check/shoving the turn is also a very viable plan. As you move higher in stakes, you'll probably donk bet the turn less often, just because you won't do it much with your entire range.

Check/shove is perfect as played till turn but for me we made a mistake on flop by not donking or raising there. We should take value there.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Definitelly donking the flop with the set multi-way would be a standard, especially when the board is not the driest one. Check/raising would be a second choice of mine and check/calling the third one. As played, I believe it's fine to go broke on the turn.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

True Alleen.
If we are not sure if the PFR ll bet in this situation, donking is good. But, if he has a high cbet stat or we believe that in fact he is going to bet, I would give it a try for a check raise, since I can see more value with this line.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

In general we donk mw with strong hands cause we do not want the flop to be checked and multiple villains to get a free card. Plus villain can cbet hu but not cbet mw...


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