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[Closed] Value Raise or Bad Raise?

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strat9
Joined: 06.02.2008

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$73.50:88/59 /35 /1.4/40 /50 /0 /52 ;Hero$46.25:///////;MP3$126.50:70/56 /17 /2.1/27 /55 /0 /45 ;BU$112.50:81/48 /2 /1.9/45 /0 /0 /53 ;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♣, 8♣
MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, BU raises, SB calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (8.00 SB) 3♣, 2♣, 4♥ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, BU bets, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, MP3 folds, BU caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.00 BB) K♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BU bets, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (13.00 BB) 8♦ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BU bets, SB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.00 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows a pair of eights (Tc 8c)
BU shows a pair of queens (Qc Qd)

BU wins with a pair of queens (Qc Qd)


3 replies
SeaJaws
Joined: 04.06.2007

Just call, now you could push out BU and MP3 and your equity ain't good HU.


OlivierLu
Joined: 17.11.2007

I would donk the flop to give as much action as possible on the flop against 3 villains.

The rest of the hand is OK.

On the river, If SB calls I fold. If he folds, I'm crying call. You beat 55-TT, busted OESD and flush draw.

If you assume BU raise PF with a tight range, and will 3-bet any overpair or flush draw, you have around 31% equity. Well, you also have to assume he will 3rd-barrel busted flush draw for this to be true :
Board: 3c 2c 4h Ks 8d

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.627% 68.63% 00.00% 35 0.00 { 66+, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac8c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c, QcJc, QcTc }
Hand 1: 31.373% 31.37% 00.00% 16 0.00 { Tc8c }


Hi strat9,

SB and BU seem to be both very bad players so I like a coldcall here more as you can't give yourself a lot fold equity and you want MP3 to stay in there as well.

Donking the flop is an interesting line and I like that too.

The river is really close. If his prefloprange is reasonable I fold in any case else I probably go with OlivierLu's line.