Highcards on 3bet or 4 bet pot OOP, cbet or not in low boards?

OK, now try to give him a range preflop.

I also have that with paired boards. I would give CO here many TT+ and high suited connectors.

Originally posted by Polezi
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I Allways get flat on these low board, is this +EV cbet in this flop (3bet and 4bet pots) ? And when I don't hit my overcards I get a bet IP on turn, and fold.

ps:: I 4bet for bluff because the agressive guys

This is the price for playing big pots OOP - especially versus aggressive guys.

Cold 4bet pre, hmmh. I think the flop cbet is not bad, you are repping big pockets. When villain calls you are beat.

Sizing seems too big for a 4bet pot unless your plan in general is to bet flop/shove turn on this board. I'd prefer to go for three streets with my range here. If we're thinking exploitatively, I don't expect too much fold equity on flop because villain is in position and can call PPs and float with overcards so betting once and x/f turn doesn't seem that great.

ps:: I 4bet for bluff because the agressive guys

Then bluff it all the way.

yes... standard sizing in 3bp is 1/2 and in 4bp its 1/3
betting 1/2 is not bad because we only bet once and we might fold AK with 1/2 sizing
that is our goal to fold AK... nothing else folds

preflop i would 4b slightly larger 2.2$ and give up on that flop

Wait for better spots to attack pre. AQo out of position 4betting cold with the open raiser and 3bettor still live in the pot behind you... no. Just no.

If CO had called the 2bet we could 3bet squeeze AQo here very profitably. Facing the 2b and 3b action just piff the hand into the muck and move on.

As played you've represented a big pair, so you should play as if you had one OTF. A half pot cbet only has to succeed a third of the time to break even, and most villains will give you that third quite safely. I think our Cbet should be very close to 100% in 3b and 4b pots.

lets assume villain 3bets wide .. 7% in that spot and calls 4b w 3.5% (AK, AQs,TT+)
14 combos fold on that flop (AK,AQs)
out of total 52 combos

now lets assume villain 3bets a bit tighter 4.5% in that spot and calls 4b w 2% (QQ+,AK)
12 combos fold on that flop(AK)
out of total 24 combos => profitable cbet

weird stuff

Should probably offset say 2 combos of AA out of his continuing range here, to allow for the most likely probability that AA would 5b pre.

Could also offset a combo or two of KK for the same reason. So you could safely remove a few combos from those continuation ranges as hands that would have 5b pre.

But yeah, it always holds true that the looser a villain is in general, the less successful air bluffs will be at moving him off pots. But then again, the looser a villain is, the more likely it becomes that you've got equity when he continues as well

I think we've invested too much money here that we cannot win back or do not know how to do it.
Wait for better spots.