Never Induce A LAG

I think preflop and flop are ok. Villain 3bets a lot but his cold 4bet might be very tight, we can't know that.
I would bet turn too to charge his FDs, AQ,KK,AA.

As played I think I would call OTR. After our turn check he could bet with AK,AQ,KQ,QQ,KK,AA and some random busted draws? He can jam river because it is only 2/3 of the pot.

ye i can imagine him having alot of the time a K, Q here. you showed lots of weakness so he doesnt give you the J often , thats why he bets probably

The main problem of all micro limit players is not the strategy they choose but that they do not observe the game and do not take notes.
For 200+ hands you should have some observations on villain.
Preflop, as we do not have info,it is ok. You can think of bluff 4 b too.
I do not like min raising the flop.Raise normal size.
Betting turn is right for me. You charge overpairs, draws...
OTR you can call and of course take a note.

I learned that aggression is the way to go. Bet turn for sure. You can always x river if villain x as well.

he main problem of all micro limit players is not the strategy they choose but that they do not observe the game and do not take notes.

What is really funny about this is that -- although I do not disagree with what you say -- for a post about observing opponents you failed to notice that I was playing the SB not the BB

I made a typo but the hand history correctly identifies villain.
I have only 56 hands on SB -- which is not so much -- I agree 200+ I would normally have a better read.

Re taking notes
Although I do it -- its really not so important at the uber-micros IMO -- as I do not see the same players very often -- the player pool is so much larger plus 95% play very much as expected for their stats. I agree for some players having notes is def. good -- and particularly the reasonable LAGs as they are the trickiest to play against.

Hesticus

Look at the SPR. There is only 1 bet left and betting the Turn versus draws means putting villain all-in...

This is kind of a silly post -- because at 2NL just bet your goods hands etc. but this was for me an interesting spot because of the way the board ran out and villains profile and 4-bet PF. Also -- 2NL is minimum-risk for trying our some weird lines for LOLZ...

IMO he likely jams OP and nut-draws on the Flop -- maybe not -- or he calls the min-Raise and check-folds a lot on the Turn (with the draws).

This is a risk-vs-return question.

AXSPIRAL

Agreed -- but what value hands can he bet that I will call?
Sure its 2NL and the circus is in town -- IMO his hand should be nuts or air. In which case -- what air does he have here? Then I can work out if a call is +EV or not.

FWIW I did call -- mainly as I had induced and I figured he plays KK/QQ differently pre and on the Flop (bigger 4-bet and C-bet).

Just for fun -- is anyone prepared to take a stab at what villain had?

Completely fine. Draws are mostly between 30% and 48% in which you are always favourite. No matter what the river brings, you have made your money OTT. Therefore, I still would bet the turn.

With regards to your question, Nuts to Air ratio is indeed a highly discussed topic among literature and the question remains how light we should call. For instance, Andrew Seidman (Easy Game, 2011) states that we should call anything that wins more than 50% of the time against a random hand. Seidman further explains an example in which he sits at the table with a maniac. A hand like AT becomes a snap-call pre-flop when villain goes AI and even though he would get stacked off by Aces, it is the right decision since villain's range is unbalanced.

Therefore, I'd like to ask you the question, if you rule out QQ and KK, do you think calling was the right decision regardless the outcome? How light do you think you could have called against villain?

However, that's just theory. Personally, I think it's a fold OTR since NL2 players don't bluff and most probably you will face a nutted range

Originally posted by poompah

he main problem of all micro limit players is not the strategy they choose but that they do not observe the game and do not take notes.

What is really funny about this is that -- although I do not disagree with what you say -- for a post about observing opponents you failed to notice that I was playing the SB not the BB

What is really funny is that I do not say a word about positions an I do not know why did you decide that but as I am not prepared to read 1-2meter long posts on what a fish I am, I will not make it a question...

Originally posted by poompah

Just for fun -- is anyone prepared to take a stab at what villain had?

No, actually.

Just for fun -- is anyone prepared to take a stab at what villain had?

QQ

QQ I also think

AK

KK

Nitrol
Take it easy dude -- I was pulling your leg. Your posts are almost always insightful and worth reading but today maybe you are *full of emotion* to paraphrase yourself
It was just ironic that your post on observing missed something obvious -- it does not really change what you say which I certainly do not disagree with.
Of course we all miss things -- the mind has a habit of seeing what it wants to see or what it thinks is there. That is a whole topic on its own...

You are right about the 2 meter long posts -- I gotta try to be more precise lol

No, actually.

AK

Dude -- are you having an up and down day?

Hesticus

I cannot really rule out KK/QQ here -- but I did think he likely plays those hands differently on the earlier streets. I do not have a concrete read on him though -- it was just a feeling.

As for calling with anything that wins more than 50% -- I am resuming this means to shoves PF. On the River with a ton of money (if a *ton* exists at 2NL lol) in the pot its obviously a lot less than 50% depending on SPR.
The 50% figure is incorrect by the way unless you play in rake-free games.

The reason I called -- on iPoker you only get 15 seconds to make your play -- is because I had induced, I thought he likely would play KK and probably QQ differently as mentioned, and he was a LAG capable of floating/bluffing with air given enough justification (dry board and a weak Turn play). I wont claim I did detailed equity calculations on the fly in 15 seconds but this is def. an area I need to work on if I am going to beat the limits above 25NL for a decent amount.

I was surprised by what he showed

Originally posted by poompah
Nitrol
Take it easy dude -- I was pulling your leg. Your posts are almost always insightful and worth reading but today maybe you are *full of emotion* to paraphrase yourself
It was just ironic that your post on observing missed something obvious -- it does not really change what you say which I certainly do not disagree with.
Of course we all miss things -- the mind has a habit of seeing what it wants to see or what it thinks is there. That is a whole topic on its own...

You are right about the 2 meter long posts -- I gotta try to be more precise lol

I still insist that I did not miss a thing...

Originally posted by poompah

No, actually.

AK

Dude -- are you having an up and down day?
No.
KK
Just playing with you...