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SH QQ, Overpair Multi-Way

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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $6.54 (65.4 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $10 (100 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $12.60 (126 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q Q
Hero raises to $0.25, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.20, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($1) 2 2 J (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, BTN folds, SB calls $0.55, BB folds

Turn: ($2.10) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.10, SB calls $1.10

River: ($4.30) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.80, SB raises to $4.64 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.84

Preflop: Standard open.

Flop: Cbetting for value. SB plays 34/13 in 39 hands and is probably a fish with a broken stack.

Turn: Probably I could plan to go all in by the river, so should bet something like $1,60.

River: Decided to bet smaller to make Jx call, but I supose it will call anyway. When he shoves, I believe I have to call vs him.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would bet turn a bit bigger. Otherwise well played imo.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

How about xb turn?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by nitrol
How about xb turn?

I don't like it much. SB is a fish and will pay us off with TP + we are giving up free cards. Another spade, A or K could be bad for our hand.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol
How about xb turn?

What would be the reason to do so? To induce bluffs OTR?


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

My standard play here vs a fish would be bet/bet/shove.

Bet bigger flop/bet bigger turn and you have easy less than a pot sized shove otr and you can stack his Jx and other weak hands.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by nitrol
How about xb turn?

I don't like it much. SB is a fish and will pay us off with TP + we are giving up free cards. Another spade, A or K could be bad for our hand.

Maybe you are right and bet is better. Bet bigger turn then.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by la55i

Originally posted by nitrol
How about xb turn?

What would be the reason to do so? To induce bluffs OTR?

Why not?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by la55i

Originally posted by nitrol
How about xb turn?

What would be the reason to do so? To induce bluffs OTR?

Why not?

That is ok plan. If villain is going to bluff there. I don't see that much difference between betting and checking to induce bluffs. I just prefer betting myself.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I like betting too. Just wanted to see opinion about this other option.


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mcarrillo89
Joined: 05.07.2007

Go ahead and bet 3 streets vs this opponent.

Check turn to induce bluff is terrible, he call a cbet OTF in a 4 way pot.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

With what?


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With pocket pairs or Jx-s. So with a check he will just as well check the river as well with pocket pairs. If he has a Jx he will never fold that anyway


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

How weird this thread is. Here's how it reads:

Villain MAY be a fish that hates money. Therefore we should build as big a pot as possible in this 4-way confrontation. We have QQ on a paired board, therefore villain has exactly Jx, and is totally eager to lose his remaining stack.

Not.

As Nitrol suggested (for reasons I do not know), check somewhere along the line. This is to keep the pot at a reasonable size. Our hand totally hates a big pot in what started out as a 4-player deal.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

My reason was just the same. I do not like pumping the pot.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Which is better, xb turn or river?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I would xb turn, as mentioned above.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

That sounds ok.


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