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NL50 3betting the turn

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wealthybrainer
Joined: 01.05.2013

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $53.83 (107.7 bb)
MP: $28.09 (56.2 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $51.25 (102.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 5 8 A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.25) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, BB raises to $11.25, Hero raises to $25, BB raises to $51.33 and is all-in, Hero calls $23.75 and is all-in

River: ($102.75) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$102.75 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 5 8 A 3 T
BB showed 5 5 and won $0.00 (-$51.25 net)
Hero showed A A and won $100.75 ($49.50 net)

No reads on reg, only that he's not bad. What about the sizing of 3 bet on turn? What hands to bluff on 3bets like this? I assume some flushes could be good.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

This hand looks fine.
Are you asking what hands you should 3bet bluff OTT?


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wealthybrainer
Joined: 01.05.2013

yeah, sorry for bad english :f_biggrin: what hands are great for 3bet bluff on turn? I guess flush hands maybe? but what hands exactly? I have hard time finding hands that would play better as a 3bet rather than a bet/call IP.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I don't think we should be 3bet bluffing on turn so much. Some flush draws are ok but those are more like semi bluffs. We still have good equity with those.
3bet bluffing turn is too fancy and unnecessary play for me but I play mainly at lower limits.


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wealthybrainer
Joined: 01.05.2013

Now I think maybe some 8x and weak flush without gutshot or OESD hands can be good as a bluff, good flushes or FD+GS/OESD are better played as a call.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I agree with that. I think those weaker holdings are better bluffs. But do ppl at NL50 usually x/r OTT and then fold to a 3bet or is their range so strong that they will go broke?


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wealthybrainer
Joined: 01.05.2013

I believe they can x/r many draws as a result they might fold to 3bets or vs additional shove on river, especially if your image is tight.


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wealthybrainer
Joined: 01.05.2013

What do you think which is better --> x/r flop with a set or x/c flop, x/r turn?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

With a set I would definitely x/r flop or even donk it. When we check there is a risk villain will check behind and sets need protection.


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wealthybrainer
Joined: 01.05.2013

yeah, I would also x/r on the flop. So on turn it looks like he x/r with draws which have hard time calling OOP


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think so too. Or then it is some stupid slowplay.. But anyway he will probably go broke here so you played this hand well.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would personal 3bet shove on the turn. Now your 3bet looks a lot stronger with less than 50% of your starting stack left and then you can’t fold if you would have a 3bet bluff line I think.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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