ZOOM: AKs shoving on flush draw turn

You have 12 nut outs. (I do not think that A or K are outs). You can stack off but I prefer just calling.
With 15 outs you can shove always.

I agree with nitrol. Against sets we don't have enough equity, but with 15 outs it would be close. We don't have 50% even if we give villain a wide range (sets, JT, QQ, KK). So I prefer calling here.

Would call here as well. I learned my lesson in the last months

Maybe this is one of my leaks i need to correct cause i do this a lot with drawy hands on the flop. What do i do on the turn if i dont improve then? just check my odds and call again if its small enough? and would i not be commited if i call the turn? what if i dont hit the river? just fold to any raise?

If you call OTT then make sure you are not committed indeed. The bet should be then really small (around 20% of pot), which often isn't the case. I would most probably then give up because you probably get a bet close to 70% OTT. Just remember the beluga theorem then you'll do fine.

Originally posted by Banktewn
Maybe this is one of my leaks i need to correct cause i do this a lot with drawy hands on the flop. What do i do on the turn if i dont improve then? just check my odds and call again if its small enough? and would i not be commited if i call the turn? what if i dont hit the river? just fold to any raise?

You will have to play according to odds, man.

whats beluga theorem?

Please, see this link.

Originally posted by jonnyZ
whats beluga theorem?

It is not applied here but it says that when you face a raise on turn, you should continue only with top 2P+.

Just call the flop and see turn. When NL2 player raises the flop you do not really have fold equity to push with a draw. When you get called you will be always behind