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AJ vs thin (value) bets

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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2915710
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SB: $1.98
BB: $2.00
UTG: $2.18
CO: $1.52 - VPIP: 89, PFR: 7, 3B: 4, AF: 3.7, Hands: 81
Hero (BTN): $2.00

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with A :diamond: J :diamond:
1 fold, CO raises to $0.04, Hero raises to $0.12, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.43) J :heart: Q :spade: K :spade: (2 players)
CO bets $0.22, Hero calls $0.22

Turn: ($0.87) 2 :spade: (2 players)
CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

River: ($1.27) 6 :diamond: (2 players)
CO bets $0.20, Hero ??

Can we call a thin (value) bet OTR?
Was it ok to call OTT?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Why do you 3b preflop. The player is wide limper but when he raises preflop he has 4 PFR...
Fold on turn. What are you hoping for?


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

I raised preflop for value.
I was cautious for the re-raise but villain bets so thin I wanted to go for one of the 3 tens. OTT I almost got a 5:1 and I believe I could stack off here against villain. I was thinking quite long during this hand but I think it's the same old reason 'no equity nor FE = fold'.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Hesticus
OTT I almost got a 5:1 and I believe I could stack off here against villain.

With 3rdP with flush and straight possible? :)


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008
la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Against a guy who raises 7% I would just call. Here you could fold OTT even if the bet is super small.


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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

Agreeing with my foreposters. Usually I also 3bet preflop in this spot, especially vs. a minraising unknown. But you got some reads on him. Even preflop... forget about "standard plays"


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LeSavant
Joined: 09.12.2006

I think 3-betting is overkill if you have no reads besides his PFR.
As played I think you can narrow down his range after he raises again to


Board: J♥K♠Q♠ 2♠ 6♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
CO     81.94%  80.56%   1.39% { TT+, AJs+, AQo+ }
BU     18.06%  16.67%   1.39% { AdJd }

your required equity is ~16% so I think you can call here also it depends very much on villain doing this with TT or AJs. If he 4-bets with JJ+ AQs+ you should fold.
As the river does not change anything and you get even better pot odds you have to call again as you still have the same equity on a blank and the pot odds (and hence ur required equity) get even better.
I would not recommend to shove as there is not much you can fold out here (maybe AQ/AJ/TT) and you only have a gutshot against everything he calls with.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

As played preflop: I am folding on the flop. (He 4-bet pre, where do you think a bottom pair and a gutter is going to take you? Free showdown? Nah...)


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Kev43
Joined: 30.07.2010

Preflop: I'm torn between call and 3bet but he probably calls a lot and we can probably take a lot of money with TP so I'd 3bet. He raises with broadways, the occasional pair and the occasional whim (like "I haven't played in a while" or "This is my lucky hand").
I'm surprised to see him 4bet. I see him with lots of broadways, mostly the stronger ones. I'd call as well because I have position and I'm probably better postflop.

Flop: I fold here. This flop is way too good for his hand and he doesn't seem like a very agressive player. I think I'd call with AQ or A♠:J♠:


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Thanks guys! I folded OTR but think OTT would have been better. Flop can be argued I guess.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You are welcome. :)


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LeSavant
Joined: 09.12.2006

As I mentioned before, I would fold OTT or call both as river does not change our equity


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We should not call turn!


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5trang3
Joined: 24.05.2016

I think the flop is a fold. KQJ flop just hits his range waaaaay too hard. Unless you are planning on turning your hand into a bluff on a later street, you can fold the flop.


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