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bogdhyy
Joined: 22.03.2012

Known Players:
MP1: 1589 - 53 bb
MP2: 3582 - 119 bb
MP3: 1363 - 45 bb
CO: 1421 - 47 bb
BU: 1381 - 46 bb
SB: 1799 - 60 bb
BB: 1366 - 46 bb

15/30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament (7 Handed)
Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 2.1.30121.1

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♦, T♥
3 pays ante, Hero pays ante (4), 3 pays ante, SB posts small blind (15), Hero posts big blind (30), MP1 folds, MP2 raises for 60, MP3 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero calls

Flop: (283 - 9.43 bb) K♠, T♣, 8♠ (4 Players)
Hero checks, 3 checks

Turn: (283 - 9.43 bb) 3♥ (4 Players)
Hero bets 120, MP2 raises for 390, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero folds

River: (1183 - 39.43 bb) Q♣ (2 Players)
MP2 bets 390, MP3 calls

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rompas
Joined: 12.02.2014

Hi bogdhyy,

I moved your thread to discussions for tournaments where its more likely someone will see and respond to your hand.

Cheers/ Rompas


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Pnnkaznk
Joined: 13.11.2009
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Wazzza16
Joined: 01.04.2011

Just c/f turn,

its not smart to bet oop in a mwp on a draw heavy board,
and the guy was raising preflop so..

:f_drink:


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bogdhyy
Joined: 22.03.2012

thanks guy.s and wich was the best play here to this hand


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bogdhyy
Joined: 22.03.2012

and how i go there where you move my quote? thanks


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bogdhyy
Joined: 22.03.2012

Known Players:
UTG3: 1998 - 17 bb
MP1: 1405 - 12 bb
MP2: 2366 - 20 bb
MP3: 1600 - 13 bb
CO: 607 - 5 bb
BU: 2993 - 25 bb
SB: 1400 - 12 bb
BB: 1982 - 17 bb

60/120 No Limit Hold'em Tournament (8 Handed)
Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 2.1.30121.1

Preflop: Hero is BU with A♠, Q♣
Hero pays ante (15), 7 pays ante, SB posts small blind (60), BB posts big blind (120), 4 folds, CO raises for 592 and is all in, Hero 3-bets 1064, 2 folds, Hero gets uncalled back (472)

Flop: (1484 - 12.37 bb) J♠, T♣, 8♠ (2 Players)

Turn: (1484 - 12.37 bb) 8♣ (2 Players)

River: (1484 - 12.37 bb) 9♦ (2 Players)

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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by bogdhyy
and how i go there where you move my quote? thanks

Betting on the turn is thin against 2 players, but I don’t think it’s too bad on a blank turn card when no 1 has bet on the flop

Originally posted by bogdhyy
Known Players:
UTG3: 1998 - 17 bb
MP1: 1405 - 12 bb
MP2: 2366 - 20 bb
MP3: 1600 - 13 bb
CO: 607 - 5 bb
BU: 2993 - 25 bb
SB: 1400 - 12 bb
BB: 1982 - 17 bb

60/120 No Limit Hold'em Tournament (8 Handed)
Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 2.1.30121.1

Preflop: Hero is BU with A♠, Q♣
Hero pays ante (15), 7 pays ante, SB posts small blind (60), BB posts big blind (120), 4 folds, CO raises for 592 and is all in, Hero 3-bets 1064, 2 folds, Hero gets uncalled back (472)

Flop: (1484 - 12.37 bb) J♠, T♣, 8♠ (2 Players)

Turn: (1484 - 12.37 bb) 8♣ (2 Players)

River: (1484 - 12.37 bb) 9♦ (2 Players)

What think about this hand? thanks
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This is a clear 3 bet shove to isolate the pusher and the other stacks in the blinds have only 12bb and 17bb. So raising makes not too much sense, because you are committed anyway.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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bogdhyy
Joined: 22.03.2012

so had to play re-raise 3 bet? no all-in ?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by bogdhyy
so had to play re-raise 3 bet? no all-in ?

I would go all-inn with AQ and that I already mentions in my previous post.


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bogdhyy
Joined: 22.03.2012

Thanks mate!


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bogdhyy
Joined: 22.03.2012

Known Players:
UTG3: 1274 - 25 bb
MP1: 1484 - 30 bb
MP2: 852 - 17 bb
MP3: 1986 - 40 bb
CO: 3206 - 64 bb
BU: 1031 - 21 bb
SB: 1477 - 30 bb
BB: 3470 - 69 bb

25/50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament (8 Handed)
Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 2.1.30121.1

Preflop: Hero is UTG3 with K♠, Q♦
7 pays ante, Hero pays ante (6), SB posts small blind (25), BB posts big blind (50), Hero raises for 100, MP1 folds, MP2 3-bets 846 and is all in, MP3 calls, 4 folds, Hero folds

Flop: (1915 - 38.30 bb) K♥, Q♠, 4♠ (2 Players)

Turn: (1915 - 38.30 bb) J♠ (2 Players)

River: (1915 - 38.30 bb) 2♥ (2 Players)

Comment: mp2 k5 and mp3 A7 . how i had to play here . i think my fold was good no?


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samni
Joined: 06.08.2009

Originally posted by bogdhyy
Known Players:
MP1: 1589 - 53 bb
MP2: 3582 - 119 bb
MP3: 1363 - 45 bb
CO: 1421 - 47 bb
BU: 1381 - 46 bb
SB: 1799 - 60 bb
BB: 1366 - 46 bb

15/30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament (7 Handed)
Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 2.1.30121.1

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♦, T♥
3 pays ante, Hero pays ante (4), 3 pays ante, SB posts small blind (15), Hero posts big blind (30), MP1 folds, MP2 raises for 60, MP3 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero calls

Flop: (283 - 9.43 bb) K♠, T♣, 8♠ (4 Players)
Hero checks, 3 checks

Turn: (283 - 9.43 bb) 3♥ (4 Players)
Hero bets 120, MP2 raises for 390, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero folds

River: (1183 - 39.43 bb) Q♣ (2 Players)
MP2 bets 390, MP3 calls

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I'd make it slightly bigger on the turn to protect against draws. If raised, in some cases you might even call and reevaluate river but in most cases, it's a fold because you don't want to call a big bet on the river. Against three players, c/f turn is fine too but I tend to believe that c/f is slightly too weak for second pair on a checkaround flop.

In the future, you might want to add your own thought process to the hand. It will definataly improve your own learning process and it makes a hand easier to discuss about. :)


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samni
Joined: 06.08.2009

Originally posted by SDK1987

Originally posted by bogdhyy
so had to play re-raise 3 bet? no all-in ?

I would go all-inn with AQ and that I already mentions in my previous post.

QFT, you'll never fold so you might aswell use that extra bit of fold equity to get a small pocket pair out.

Let's say he pushes 35% of his hands (and thats kinda tight imo, some players go around 65% and if he just lost a bunch of his stack, he might go 100%). Versus that range, you have 61.8% equity. Let's throw in a player with 22-66 in his range (which he may play if you call/minraise the 5bb shove and fold if you shove). Equilab took his time but you're around 35% equity then, flipping for the majority in the side pot. So I'd say, take the little bit extra fold equity and shove :)


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