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KJ flops 2nd pair, turn 2 pair

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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

At the time he hadnt seemed to have been raising as much as the stats suggest
OTT - should I lead out here or c/r after he bets small?
OTR - no point betting

BTN - VPIP: 52, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 3.8, Hands: 56

Poker Stars, $3.13 Buy-in (40/80 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
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SB: 1,779 (22.2 bb)
Hero (BB): 2,680 (33.5 bb)
CO: 1,893 (23.7 bb)
BTN: 2,648 (33.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K♣: J♥:
CO folds, BTN raises to 240, SB folds, Hero calls 160

Flop: (560) A♦: 9♦: K♥: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 240, Hero calls 240

Turn: (1,040) J♦: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 320, Hero calls 320

River: (1,680) 3♦: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Results:

Spoiler

1,680 pot
Final Board: A♦: 9♦: K♥: J♦: 3♦:
Hero showed K♣: J♥: and lost (-810 net)
BTN showed 7♦: A♠: and won 1,680 (870 net)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I don’t think you can raise on 1 street, because you get only action of better and the BTN looks fishy and then it’s also difficult to let him fold an ace.

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SDK1987


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TomClassy
Joined: 06.05.2015

I don't see passives betting with nothing or a mediocre hand too often (especially when there is an A and K lying) and I don't think he has a good fd or a fd in general OTF (again with Ad on the board) they 90/10 play it passive/aggro that is why I would more often make a tight fold OTF.
As played, considering what I have said in the previous paragraph, OTT c/r for value and then shoving the remaining 1k OTR looks legit to me (25% credit). Leading out most likely lets you to get 1 more street of value since he may decide to check when a third dimond comes and you loose value. It also protects you from runner-runner fd and I would play 65% by betting myself here. I would call less often against a passive (in 10% may be) coz I think this type of players has a good capability of calling with worse and we don't need to keep his range wide and wait for his bluffs.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

If you would raise the turn this will be all-inn and then you will isolate yourself against better.
It would be bad for him to call with only top pair or so.


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

Originally posted by SDK1987
If you would raise the turn this will be all-inn and then you will isolate yourself against better.

Thats what I thought at the time, its just his small bet looks so weak that I thought he didn't have the flush and probably just has an A


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