9 max 180 MTT SnG 1$ hands Mid stage JJ on BB

Joined: 06.05.2015

15.07.2016, 04:49 +1

PokerStars - $0.91+$0.09|50/100 Ante 10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 42.9 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP+2: 67.23 BB (VPIP: 44.83, PFR: 15.52, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 60)
CO: 31.05 BB (VPIP: 12.90, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
BTN: 37.92 BB (VPIP: 29.79, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 47)
SB: 13.34 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
Hero (BB): 31.72 BB
UTG: 16.18 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG+1: 18.03 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 10.64 BB (VPIP: 12.24, PFR: 4.08, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 50)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has J♦ J♣

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 4.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero?

The stat sample is too small to tell anything about the opp. His big raise makes his range pretty polarised where we are either far behind (QQ+), or way ahead (smaller PP) and less often flip against AQo+, AJs+. We are ahead of his range right now but 50% of flops will contain a scare card and calling would be too expensive to fold postflop such a good hand coz we would have to fold to a standart size cbet or play for stacks coz we will be too much committed. A, K or Q contatinin board is very good for bluff cbetting for sure but I don't think he can profitable bluff cbet such boards when my range has a decent amount of AK/AQ/AJs hands which I may have decided not to play though a 3bet raise.

What are your opinions?

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SDK1987

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15.07.2016, 10:28 0

I would go for a 3bet shove in a spot like this. It’s off course a big 1, but with a normal 3bet you will invest already more than 1/3 of your remaining stack and it’s +ev against a random $1 player I think.

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TomClassy

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02.08.2016, 19:40 0

Yes, may be it is a better option among other and that is what I did but that makes our range pretty capped to 77-JJ AK, AQs type of hands. May be we just have no other option cozthe hand is not very playable postflop in the present circumstances.

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SDK1987

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03.08.2016, 06:36 0

If the MP+1 was raising a lot smaller it would be most likely better to make a normal 3bet.
Also it’s good to know why this player is raising 4,4x now, but without reads it’s shoving fine I think.

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lila28

Joined: 31.05.2013

Posts: 127

09.08.2016, 08:31 0

Seem good shove preflop with all weaker players in theses games. Would not want invest lot and then play post with lot overs possible.
Deeper stacked we probably can decide between call/3bet for value depends player.

Originally posted by TomClassy
The stat sample is too small to tell anything about the opp. His big raise makes his range pretty polarised where we are either far behind (QQ+), or way ahead (smaller PP) and less often flip against AQo+, AJs+. We are ahead of his range right now but 50% of flops will contain a scare card and calling would be too expensive to fold postflop such a good hand coz we would have to fold to a standart size cbet or play for stacks coz we will be too much committed. A, K or Q contatinin board is very good for bluff cbetting for sure but I don't think he can profitable bluff cbet such boards when my range has a decent amount of AK/AQ/AJs hands which I may have decided not to play though a 3bet raise.

What are your opinions?

I would disagree with this assumption strongly and say players there huge majority of times is linear with ranges like 99+/AJs+/AQo+ and going down linear when they open 4x and rarelly 44/33 or similar hands.
I don't get why you are putting random 1$ player with sample 13 hands on polarized range when he make 4x (likely stronger linear range). Seem like overthinking for me.

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