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Polezi
Joined: 13.08.2009

Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.30 (103 bb) VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 3,5, Hands: 1583 Reg Player
Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $20.56 (205.6 bb)
MP: $13.76 (137.6 bb)
CO: $12.39 (123.9 bb) VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 10, F3B 80, AF: 2,0, Hands: 355
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♥ A♣
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.55, CO calls $1.25, BTN folds, SB calls $1.25

Flop: ($4.95) 6♦ 7♣ 8♥ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.45, CO folds, SB calls $2.45

Turn: ($9.85) 3♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.85) K♠ (2 players)
SB bets $6.30 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $9.85 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: 6♦ 7♣ 8♥ 3♥ K♠
SB mucked and won $9.55 ($5.55 net)
Hero mucked A♥ A♣ and lost (-$4 net)

I plan to bet flop and check down to the river if don't improve, reg just shove on river, easy fold?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I would make the squeeze bigger preflop. 2,00-2,10.
Bet turn and put him AI.
As played, we can call this river.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

As played, you should call river, but go AI on turn. This is much more problematic with deeper stacks. Here the SPR is << 1.


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Polezi
Joined: 13.08.2009

Originally posted by YohanN7
As played, you should call river, but go AI on turn. This is much more problematic with deeper stacks. Here the SPR is << 1.

What' s the range of the reg? I think that TT+ will squeeze, I only see maybe 99 or 55 that bluffs river that I win


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by Polezi

Originally posted by YohanN7
As played, you should call river, but go AI on turn. This is much more problematic with deeper stacks. Here the SPR is << 1.

What' s the range of the reg? I think that TT+ will squeeze, I only see maybe 99 or 55 that bluffs river that I win

It is better to drop hand reading (unless it is very very good) and go with the odds and your holding. E. g. QTs/JTs are hands that make sense and he'll hold hands that does not make sense at all. Moving AI on turn is still best.


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robin261187
Joined: 04.01.2011

River is a call IMO.

I don't think villain has you beat. Even if he had a pocket pair, your 3b pre-flop was too big for him to call with a small pocket pair. I think he has TT-QQ and maybe some broadways that he decided to bluff the river with. Or maybe he hit the K top-pair and decided to bet.

As was already said, I think we should bet the turn and put villain all-in.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would shove OTT. As played I would call river.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Polezi

Originally posted by YohanN7
As played, you should call river, but go AI on turn. This is much more problematic with deeper stacks. Here the SPR is << 1.

What' s the range of the reg? I think that TT+ will squeeze, I only see maybe 99 or 55 that bluffs river that I win

You should not mind his river range as you should push from turn.


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Polezi
Joined: 13.08.2009

Guys, did you see that I'm against the sb not the original raiser CO? I'm really try to understand why is good to shove turn against a possible range of 55-99,78s,87s,9Ts. Did you think he can flats JJ+ in sb and cold call again after 3bet?


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robin261187
Joined: 04.01.2011

I wouldn't call your raise with small pocket pairs or suited connectors even less being out of position.

I don't think we have high enough implied odds. And even if we hit out set, there's a chance of facing a higher set.

That's why I don't think villain would call with a small set there or suited connectors. He might have, but I don't think he did, being a regular.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

With sets villain would usually xr, not always though. He has some draws that might call a shove. I think shove OTT is ok because we have less than a pot size bet behind and there are many ugly cards that might come on the river. That will maximize our fold equity while still some weaker hands might call and if he calls with a set we are not completely dead (2 outs :f_rolleyes:).

If we xb turn we give up our aggression and villain might try to bluff us otr. And any 9,5 or heart will be bad.


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

In your plan you say if you do not improve, but you will not improve with AA, it is a made hand so you have to bet OOP.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I'm not sure I understood what you just said. But what I mean is this:

In this hand, as played, you can call the river bet because of the line you took OTT. Because you check OTT villain might be bluffing more and our hand is ok to bluff catch with.
Any heart or 9 or 5 are kinda bad cards for us and if one of those came OTR we would have to consider folding in my opinion. So almost half of the remaining deck is bad for us.
What you can do OTT is 1. check and let villain see a free card (15 of those are bad for us) and then be lost OTR and maybe call maybe fold 2. Shove OTT and maximize your fold equity, make villain pay with his draws and maybe still get some calls from a range that you are ahead of.


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

I was talking to the poster.


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