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MisterSnS
Joined: 09.11.2011

888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) FAST - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100.7 BB (VPIP: 37.93, PFR: 31.03, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
BTN: 45.8 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 113.2 BB (VPIP: 30.26, PFR: 22.37, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 76)
BB: 242.5 BB (VPIP: 21.62, PFR: 19.94, 3Bet Preflop: 7.91, Hands: 721)
Hero (UTG): 139.3 BB
MP: 178.9 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♦ J♠

Hero raises to 2.8 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 4.6 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.8 BB

Flop: (10.7 BB, 2 players) 3♦ 7♣ Q♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 8 BB, fold

BTN wins 10.1 BB

I always do myself hard vs. fishy players, who 1) re-raise this small and 2) BOMB the flop like this.

Obviously we beat some stuff, and he could be wider preflop, but then I see his stacksize and have to fold to every time he barrels the turn (what's quite likely). Thus, I just fold the flop.

Too weak?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yea I think you could have called this one.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I would fold as well, his line seems strong and our hand is not good enough imo.


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partyace7
Joined: 19.07.2012

In general min3B PRe are supper strong, also i see that a lot of fishes after PSB does not stop barreling, so this is another reason for folding.
Folding here and waiting for more reads w this player seems the right choice to me.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You cannot fold the second pair. Board is superdry and villain will barrel with his whole range. AK is betting like hell here...
You should call.


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partyace7
Joined: 19.07.2012

Originally posted by nitrol
You cannot fold the second pair. Board is superdry and villain will barrel with his whole range. AK is betting like hell here...
You should call.

So what are you doing OTT when he barrels again ?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Vs unknown most likely fold but sometimes we can call too, depends a bit on villain.
But you should replace the word "when" with a word "if", because villain will very often slow down OTT.
We have to call flop because villain has so much air in his range and he will very often not bet turn and we will win the pot often enough.


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Mandator
Joined: 02.02.2008

Call flop and evaluate turn, you are being so exploitable in that spot.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by partyace7

Originally posted by nitrol
You cannot fold the second pair. Board is superdry and villain will barrel with his whole range. AK is betting like hell here...
You should call.

So what are you doing OTT when he barrels again ?

If you find here you are overfolding and that makes you supertight and exploitable.
You should call flop and see what comes on turn. You can call on turn too...


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partyace7
Joined: 19.07.2012

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by partyace7

Originally posted by nitrol
You cannot fold the second pair. Board is superdry and villain will barrel with his whole range. AK is betting like hell here...
You should call.

So what are you doing OTT when he barrels again ?

If you find here you are overfolding and that makes you supertight and exploitable.
You should call flop and see what comes on turn. You can call on turn too...

WTF you are tring to not be exploitbale against a guy who min 3B ???
C"mon guys !


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

We would call here even if villain 3bets 3x. The fact that this is min 3bet doesn't mean anything. I have seen aggro fish do that with complete trash.
This villain might not exploit us, but not getting exploited was only part of the reason why we call flop.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We are talking to not be exploitable vs any oponent.
And guess what, mum 3b is not a powerhouse. I started 4b those relentlessly and they fold.


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