ugly preflop spot w JJ

If you had a note on him that he was very aggresive in LP with reraises, Jam preflop. It seems to be an average opponent so a fold is better, if the stacks were bigger a call could be good. But I don't know the minimal size of the effective stack size to make a call profitable against a 4bet.

Also don't post the result of the hand.

This is standard fold for me. I play only when I have some read on villain, which makes me believe I can be ahead with JJ.

I think I wouldn't call 4bets pre from these positions so much. Something like AK or AQs would be a decent call but pocket pairs that we 3bet for value I would shove. Here you could consider 5bet shove pre flop but since villain is short hand he 4bets so big and he has a 3bet% of 1% on 200 hands, I think you could let this one go and fold pre.

On the flop you can just fold. You need around 30% equity to call here and villain definitely has QQ+, AdKd, AdQd in his range, and a lot of hands that has a lot of equity.

Villain is shortstack. If you 3b you should go all the way and push.

3bet is 1% in 217 hands and now he is 4betting. And villain is not super short. I'm not sure if I want to shove only to hope we hit a set.

217 hands is not enough to rely on 3 bet imo :).

The probability of getting dealt KK+ pre flop is around 1% so if he 3bets only those his 3bet% would be around 2.1% here.
He might have had a bad run and haven't got as many AA or KK he should have but I think from this sample it is safe to say he is extremely tight with this 3bets.. If he would 3bet AK and QQ too, he would already have a lot bigger 3bet% than just 1%. And in this case he is 4betting.

Villain is shortstack.

Is he really with 81 bbs??

If he got AK+ QQ+ vs that range we are pretty crushed 36.20%. I Think you're better off playing a tight game on NL 2 and just valuebet the living shiit out of players.

Originally posted by la55i
3bet is 1% in 217 hands and now he is 4betting. And villain is not super short. I'm not sure if I want to shove only to hope we hit a set.

Then you should not 3b in the first place vs the shortstack.

Originally posted by la55i
The probability of getting dealt KK+ pre flop is around 1% so if he 3bets only those his 3bet% would be around 2.1% here.
He might have had a bad run and haven't got as many AA or KK he should have but I think from this sample it is safe to say he is extremely tight with this 3bets.. If he would 3bet AK and QQ too, he would already have a lot bigger 3bet% than just 1%. And in this case he is 4betting.

Not exact but it does not matter. We should have plan for the hand before entering the pot. That is the most important thing. And turning JJ into a bluff preflop is not that good.

Originally posted by nitrol

Originally posted by la55i
3bet is 1% in 217 hands and now he is 4betting. And villain is not super short. I'm not sure if I want to shove only to hope we hit a set.

Then you should not 3b in the first place vs the shortstack.

Villain can still call a 3bet with wide range. And by 3betting we avoid being multiway or getting squeezed. I don't see how villains tight 3bet and 4bet range prevents us from 3betting him. If this guy 4bets only AA our plan can easily be to 3bet him and fold vs 4bet. I don't see any problem in that.