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Clawson
Joined: 29.12.2006

88/99/AK.
88/99 could easily be betting the flop and after hero calls, continue on good turn and on the river he knows that hero probably has a T in his hand and he cant check anymore, so goes for the big bluff and hopes hero folds.
But mostly AK I guess, AKhearts makes sence obviously, turn gives him flushdraw and bluff on the end. So if I have to pick one, Ah Kh.


blede2009
Joined: 27.04.2009

EN MI OPINION BB TIENE As/T LA MISMA MANO DE HERO YA QUE SOLO VE DESDE EL FLOP Y BUENO ESTA DEFENDIENDO SU PAR NO PUEDE TENER EL SIETE AL MENOS QUE LO TENGA CON EL As PERO MI OPINION MAS CONTUNDENTE DEFINITIVAMENTE As/T LA MISMA MANO QUE HERO


Maniatrix
Joined: 01.11.2008

J♥:9♥:

BB decided to 3bet. Flops a gutshot and a backdoor, cbets. Picks up extra equity on the turn and decides to continue.


kidmaglor
Joined: 20.04.2016

I think the BB has 27s
He 3-bets hoping to get a Flush with is surprising (and hard to guess) hand!
Of course when he makes Full House in River he moves ALL-IN.


*Creo q el villano tiene : A♥: 2♥: .

* Porque encaja al 3bet vs raise de Sb. Dado el flop conecta par de 2, y al ver q Sb hace check, decide apostar siguiendo la linea de cbet un 50% del bote, el turn trae un corazon, lo q es favorable para sus cartas, y al ver q Sb hace check de nuevo, esta vez decide apostar por valor en el turn dadas sus outs, y el river al ser un 7 carta q se repite y a nuevamente check de SB decide jugarse, pensando q Sb Tiene Ax.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I guess he’s 3 barreling with 88 and try to get him of the hand.


ugiic
Joined: 27.09.2016

8♥: 9♥:


Marcoamma
Joined: 21.09.2016

Il range con cui villain apre può essere ampio ma nemmeno troppo. Questo perché sta subendo un rilancio da SB e può attribuirgli un range che preveda molti assi e pocket pair. Ha subito escluso QQ+ perché avrebbe sicuramente difeso il SB è invece si è limitato a flattare. Cbetta con molte mani ma un AK AQ o AJ anche a cuori vanno in check behind dopo il check sul river per showdown equity. Secondo me villain ha una mano come 88 o 99. Cbetta su un board dry dove è battuto solo da un T nell'ipotetico range di hero perché ha escluso JJ+ (QQ+ preflop e JJ rilancia sul flop). La bet sul river è sbagliata perché può vedersi chiamato solo da mani che lo battono.


KingKlaas
Joined: 13.12.2008

I guess AK of hearts.
Preflop standard 3bet for value.
Flop c-bet bluff with backdoorequity.
Picks up the flushdraw and bets again turn.
On river only chance to win is bluffing and puts us all-in.


BB PUò AVERE O 77 O AA KK QQ cosi si spiega la sua sicurezza al river per fare ollin


Magster
Joined: 19.11.2011

A♦: 4♦:


Ari88p
Joined: 09.07.2016

BB has Jh 9h !

Allright.. Sometimes you just have to fight back when somebody steals from SB, eventhough that sb's range should be pretty narrow...

BB's 3betting range can be really wide here, consisting like 50% of bluffy hands with good flopping equity and position. i think he would call pre with hands lower than 98, so conners and gappers under that i dont count in his 3betting range, hands like T9 and JT, and gapers like J9 and so on, can even catch a pair bigger than SBs some pocket pairs he would raise here and call a 3bet.
I also think that small or medium suited Aces would play really well post flop, so i dont think he is 3betting those and bloating the pot, when he can be in really akward RIO situation when hes mostlikely out kicked if gets action, but can bluff catch with a pair or get thin value if he thinks hes good.

So lets assing him a range of 22+, AT+, T9s+, J9s+

ok so hes takeng the lead preflop, and on the flop hes cbetting probably with everything in his range. so that doesnt get us anywhere.. but since it supposed to be a bluff, we can take out all the value hands, which makes this easier to guess.
so lets assing a fairly wide continuation range, that doesnt include clear value hands:
33-55, AJ+, QJs+, J9s, KJs

Turn bet is pretty big, the kind of bet you would do with good value hand, or good equity.
i think BB would have either given up or done a smaller bet with 33-55 so we count those out.
Its pretty clear that BB picked up some equity on the turn, and i think he wouldnt do this always with Overs + Flushdraw, with Ahigh he would have a little SDV, KJ he would probably want to check to showdown if he doesnt hit a flush.
So the hands that are left are QJ of hearts and J9h, and i think he would have done the turn bet either smaller or bigger with QJ of hearts since he has no SDV and a third nuts flushdraw.. so im left with J9 of hearts, he has plenty of equity with flushdraw and a gutter, and with one overcard to the board, which could also be good, but no SDV!


karimpoker
Joined: 08.09.2011
veeRtje
Joined: 14.07.2006

4♥:5♥: makes sense to play a monster draw aggressively. River is a bad card to bluff but he feels he has to anyway with the nut low.


tmannie
Joined: 09.06.2009

A pair , because of his aggression TT
tmannie


SicLuc
Joined: 21.09.2015

my gues is 9♣:9♠: 3rd barrel for no scary board!


ggeshov
Joined: 25.12.2010

AK because makes sense to 3bet with it preflop. OTF and OTT villain tries to get hero off the hand with a semi-bluff (still can hit an A or K or a flush in case that the hand is AhKh). OTR doesnt hit so continues to bluff by representing an overpair.


pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

Jh9h
Here we go, lets try to minimize his range to minimum:

Pre 3bet range TAG vs TAG: Suited connectors

Suited gap connectors
Gap connectors
Big overcards suited
Big overcards offsuit
Broadways suited
Broadways
Small pairs
Mid pairs
Big pairs
Suited Aces

What hands he misses and turns in to a 3 barrel bluff?

Suited connectors
Suited gap connectors
Gap connectors
Big overcards suited
Big overcards offsuit
Broadways suited
Broadways
Small pairs
Suited Aces

Turn gives a heart draw what makes 3 barrels bluff more possible:

Suited connectors (hearts): T9s/65s/43s
Suited gap connectors (hearts): T8s/96s/53s/24s/T6s/58s/59s
Big overcards suited (hearts): AQs/AKs/AJs
Broadways suited (hearts): KQs/QJs/J10s/A10s/K10s/KJs
Small pairs: 33/44/55
Suited Aces: A4s/A6s/A2s/A5s

With an ace and a ten in our hand we block Aces and tens:

Suited connectors (hearts): 65s/43s
Suited gap connectors (hearts): K9s/K8s/Q9s/J9s/J8s/96s/53s/24s/58s/59s
Broadways suited (hearts): KQs/QJs/KJs
Small pairs: 33/44/55

Lets eliminate second pairs where he doenst have to bluff 3 barrels:

Suited connectors (hearts): 43s
Suited gap connectors (hearts): K9s/K8s/Q9s/J9s/J8s/53s/24s/58s/59s
Broadways suited (hearts): KQs/QJs/KJs
Small pairs: 33/44/55

Lets say without no other info that he 3 bets like between 7-11% of the time and he will normally have more float range preflop

Suited gap connectors (hearts): K9s/J9s
Broadways suited (hearts): QJs/KJs
Small pairs: 33/44/55

Maybe because of paired board he doesnt have to 3 barrell bluff and still has the best hand, so lets eliminate small pairs:

Suited gap connectors (hearts): K9s/J9s
Broadways suited (hearts): QJs/KJs

Between this two possibillities i give him more credits to add straight draw also what motivates him more to 3 barrel bluff and between K9s and J9s I go for J9s bevause he might not 3bet with K9s because its dominates more hands but still not strong or to weak hand to 3bet


MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

I'd say:Jh:Q♥: is typically the kind of hand that would have been perceived as reckless if played like this in 2008 but which has become way more commun as of nowadays : standard 3bet BvB, standard cbet, the turn is a heart so vilain goes on etc...


ronnieldavid
Joined: 12.05.2011

9Js heart