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studdy55
Joined: 22.03.2009

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 116.92 BB
SB: 139.2 BB (VPIP: 22.08, PFR: 19.48, 3Bet Preflop: 8.25, Hands: 238)
BB: 103.32 BB (VPIP: 26.07, PFR: 21.82, 3Bet Preflop: 8.19, Hands: 618)
UTG: 130.6 BB (VPIP: 57.58, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
MP: 97.44 BB (VPIP: 12.36, PFR: 4.49, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 90)
CO: 103.56 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 13.16, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ 2♦

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 6.72 BB, fold, Hero raises to 18 BB, SB calls 11.28 BB

Flop: (37 BB, 2 players) 7♥ T♦ A♥
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (37 BB, 2 players) J♥
SB bets 17.64 BB, fold

SB wins 35.32 BB

OTF: I could bet here against jj-qq, kqs and flushdraws. I decided to cb because the tp is so weak and he could have aqs hands or 8h9h, qhjh, khqh which could cR and I had to fold...
OTT: I think - as play - I have no alternative as to fold.
(assume the turn brings a jd I would call the turn vs this little bet. Let the river be a 2c I would have 2 pair but on a sick flop, would you call on a push? (think I would just fold because I think regs don't bluff enough in this spot but ok...))


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Do you have fold to 4bet stats on him? I don’t think I would bluff to often in position with an Ace here and I would most likely call here or fold.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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KrisRukov
Joined: 26.06.2010

i will call the turn and evaluate on the river. As you said that he might have KK QQ JJ with 1 heart and you`ve XB flop in a 4b pot or maybe any JJ+ and he is just betting to protect from random 1 card heart flush.
I had a similar hand the other day and the opponent showed me the 1 combo AA ;)
Deff not a bad fold, i like staying out of trouble approach.

Cheers :f_drink:


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

Axs bu vs sb is very beatifull i call, i want 4bet/fold

As played you can't fold top pair turn, if oppo bet 2 street you have ak flush with call

I think that he can bet with aj/q jts kq tt jj 77 flush , txs jxs in bluff and 99 88 with fd


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

call pre

probably call turn. I guess this is the ugliest of turns but still... require some sort of strong read to fold here.


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LuckyManFromLT
Joined: 12.11.2013

Pre flop is a call.

On NL25z people will call tight range (AQ/KQs/JJ/TT/AJs given stack are deeper he might have QQ and AK) vs 4bets especially oop, so OTT it's looks like a easy fold to me, why would SB bet QQ w hearts OTT? If it's 1/4 or 1/3 of the pot bet, then maybe he can.


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studdy55
Joined: 22.03.2009

can one of you elaborate why you would just call pre. Ok the hand is "beatifull" but I get everything I want out of this 4b-bluff range: + block his 5bet range
+ straight and flush potential
Lets just image I have 87s which I would call a good 4b hand, but it doesn't block anything out of his 5 bet range and my flush is not the nutflush. And on this flop I don't know how to act, I think a bet would be bad too.
So maybe you say, you could call a lot of hands ip, because you have position and you with light 4 bets you give him the opportunity to make the right decision, but I think I have to balance my 4b range here. On this limit regs 3b maybe 10-15% on the sb vs bu. If I 4b/call with qq+, ak you need, I think perhaps 24 combos of bluffing hands. What do I miss, which bluffinrange is better?


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LuckyManFromLT
Joined: 12.11.2013

4b some ATo, because you are ip you will realize your equity easier so this hand will not be super tough to play even when you get called, and Kxs, which you can't call, I would as well 4b some A6s/A7s just to have some nut FD potential post flop, calling with A2s-A5s is better IMO, because of playability, you can flop GS too.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Forget this. I misread the HH


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