Set in 4bet pot vs turn big raise

Such a small 4bet. Easy to call with any of his 3-betting hands IP. Contbet on flop to small. No need to balance extract value from Ax hands that he flated.
When beeing deep ususally people increase sizings of 3 and 4 bets. But here it is obvious that hero is scared preflop, flop, and turn

Difficult to ever fold middle set in a blind against blind situation. So you gave him credit for AA or a flush and I think he can easy raise with worse. So I would stack off here most likely as cash game fish. You could indeed 4bt pre-flop a little bit more to 18bb or so, but post-flop sizing isn’t too bad of an issue for me.

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SDK1987

Standard 4bet size is 2,5x i think.

I would never give up this hand. How many flushes can he have? KQ, QJ, 78, 89 maybe??
I do not fold to 4 combos.

Reasons for him to bet big:
- he has AKo with not K in diamonds and wants to protect his hand
- he has 33 and wants to protect his hand
- he could also play paired hands WITH a diamond like this, since he is not scared about the flush
- he could also play KdQx as a semi bluff like this

I just think there are some reasons furthermore than just the flush to bet big OTT. I would have shoved.

My value 4bet range from these positions usually starts from JJ+ but 4betthing this is not a big deal. 4bet sizing could be just a bit bigger. Same thing for your sizings OTF and OTT just a bit bigger so you will have a river shove.
Betting flop and turn totally fine.

His raise is quite weird because Ad and Td blocks a lot of flushes and I really think in 4bet pot only flush he should have is KdQd. Sample is too small to say he is calling 4bets light. You have around 22% equity against flush and to call you need around 28%. I think if you hit you will get his stack so you have some implied odds. Folding is ok but I think calling would be ok too on the long run.

I´d fold OTT. His bet is too strong imo. What about pre-flop, isn´t it a bit overplayed?

He would've called you with suited connectors, i'd be inclined to call

Preflop 4-bet is useless. You are OOP and can't push small edges "for value", especially since you fold when you hit and he sneezes on turn. As played, bet bigger on the flop. That way you also have a simpler decision on the turn.

I can see AT, 33, KK (with K♦: ) and AK (again with K♦: ) playing this way, maybe even more hands if you have a tight image. I see few AA and not very many 3 flushes (against which you have 10 outs).

Pot odds, by the way, are nearly 2.5:1. Not many bluffs/worse hands are needed in the mix to make this a no-brainer.

I would bet bigger on flop > no brainer shove on turn for me agreed with yohanN7 BB vs SB he could even call your low 4bet with A3s A2s even AT preflop imo. Also I m not sure he raise all flush on this turn if he s a bit tricky.

On turn for him to raise Ax hand especially that big I think does not make sense. He is just isolating vs strong range and making huge pot for top pair hand. It would be good if people would do so for me, but I do not believe that they do it unless they are fish.

Pot control for him is more important that protection.

- he has 33 and wants to protect his hand

33 I see raise on flop. If he did not raise flop, now its worse card for him to raise, same reason - he isolates against stronger range. Now more worse hands fold than on flop.

- he could also play paired hands WITH a diamond like this, since he is not scared about the flush

again why for him to inflate pot and isolate against better range.

- he could also play KdQx as a semi bluff like this

he could, how can he believe he has much FE after me 4beting and 2 barreling. I would not do that in his shoes so I do not believe its very likely.

He would've called you with suited connectors, i'd be inclined to call

Do not get, those can have flush now, and because I believe its 99 % flush, I folded.

OP: How many hands you had on villain? What was his 3bet vs. hero and what was his 3bet from particular positions?

Originally posted by msnek
OP: How many hands you had on villain? What was his 3bet vs. hero and what was his 3bet from particular positions?

oh forgot hands: 1500 hands.
Vs hero - dont have stats.

we can see that he 3bets insane amount vs SB

You have around 22% equity against flush and to call you need around 28%. I think if you hit you will get his stack so you have some implied odds.

I think we cannot call, if call then better to shove, because not much left. What if we call and do not hit and plus see 4 card of same suite or smth.

Ad and Td blocks a lot of flushes and I really think in 4bet pot only flush he should have is KdQd.

THis is interesting notice. But I would not be surprised of weaker flushes - QJs, 98s becuase I made small 4bet and maybe he thinks that he has implied odds with those stack sizes.
On the other hand - why for him to 3bet those suited connecterrs and even KQs. Those imo are too good, he could choose worse hands to 3bet. But I woudl need to find out his 3bet range in those positions.

At least what pokertracker autonote says:

[P] 3Bet Blind vs steals w/{QQ,A2o,K3o} (4)
[P] 3Bet range {QQ-KK,K6s,AQo+,ATo,A2o,K3o} (11)

BB vs SB he could even call your low 4bet with A3s A2s even AT preflop imo. Also I m not sure he raise all flush on this turn if he s a bit tricky.

I believe he could call with those as I see such wide 3bet vs SB now. Otherwise he should fold a ton to 4bets.
But what I do not see him slowplaying 2 pair and raising when flush completes and this big.