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QQ OOP - CO vs. BUT

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Deros
Joined: 27.01.2014

888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 152.1 BB (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 17.95, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 156)
SB: 164.8 BB (VPIP: 29.82, PFR: 22.81, 3Bet Preflop: 8.82, Hands: 177)
BB: 57.2 BB (VPIP: 55.26, PFR: 18.42, 3Bet Preflop: 1.72, Hands: 119)
UTG: 95.8 BB (VPIP: 27.83, PFR: 20.28, 3Bet Preflop: 6.21, Hands: 435)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♦ Q♣

fold, Hero raises to 2.8 BB, BTN calls 2.8 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.1 BB, 2 players) 2♠ 2♦ 3♠
Hero bets 4.3 BB, BTN calls 4.3 BB

Turn: (15.7 BB, 2 players) J♦
Hero bets 9.7 BB, BTN raises to 27.2 BB, Hero raises to 92.9 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 65.7 BB

Hi, what you think about 3bet shove on turn? :f_ugly:


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

At the micros I would say it is fine to overfold vs turn raises.
Here the board is paired so villain shouldn't raise you with draws so often. But I guess we still have to put some bluffs in his range and maybe he is overplaying AJ.
I might just call there. Shoving feels like an overplay to me.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

Shove would usually fold out all his bluffs and isolate you against a range that beats you. When i look at the hand - he represents 33 and thats it.I cant see any deuces in his range.

I would call turn and call most non spade rivers.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I definitely wouldn´t shove the T. It´s either call or fold. Problem with folding is that it´s too weak imo. Firstly I thought fold is the good option, but now I think it´s quite equal. I would look at villain´s stats and decide by it.


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TheTrain
Joined: 28.08.2014

Personally I would have called. 3bet seems too much because it look like he definitely hit that J...either JJ or AJ. If he had 33 he would have probably played more aggressive OTF. Since I'm still new to this, I'm actually struggling with the math here to see what the best move would be....:f_biggrin:


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PatPoker5
Joined: 15.11.2008

I think a call OTT is the best move. But I didn't know what to do if he shoves on the river.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

I'm a little surprised that you all seem to see such a big difference between calling and raising here, for once it's me who doesn't
One thing for sure is I'm not folding anyway, if he's A2s or JJ so be it !


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piR
piR
Joined: 31.08.2008

I think your shove is fine. Even better if you know he could do that with TT/99/88.


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