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1outerHITS
Joined: 12.07.2014

Originally posted by la55i
AJo would be a standard squeeze in weazel's ranges for example. I can understand the reasons why it is fine to use that as a bluff squeeze and I believe weazel has put many hours into those ranges so it is probably fine to squeeze that.

You don't agree with what? With that people at NL10 like to call way more and therefore bluffing is not as good? For example once I made a perfect bluff in my opinion, my line was exactly what I would play with a flush on that board and still villain called with mid pair (unknown guy so couldn't have any info on me, he was just a station).

First of all: I'm sure w34z3l has put many hours into those ranges.
I did too.
Other good players did the same.
Everybody has different results and a different gameplan.

I would snapfold AJo here :|
Of course you can mathematically calculate this.
And even if we say "okay it's NL10 people have (1) worse contructed ranges, you have a (2) better realization of your equity and you have more (3) Foldquity preflop" it's still a fold in my opinion.
There are so many better hands than AJo.

Originally posted by marsa08
78k hands is a small sample. I know players that are crushing nl100-200 over huge samples at like 8bb/100 and they have had brake even or losing stretches of 200k hands.

Yes and no.
78k hands is no sample. Like really nothing.
And breakeven stretches of 100k-200k hands are quite normal - if you have a normal winrate (0-5bb/100).

With 8bb/100 EV Winrate the chance you are breakeven/down for 100k+ hands is 0.11% ... so not really likely.
For 5bb/100 EV Winrate the chance is around 6%.
For a 3bb/100 EV Winrate player the chance of being breakeven for at least 100k hands is 25%.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

Since you are breaking even over this sample, it feels like you are close to being winner if this is real winrate, not runnning hot winrate. So I think its if some fixes are done, you can be a winner.

I remember when I was breaking even at NL10. Then I won the free coaching from veriz. And after 1-1.5 hour of coaching he pointed some of my leaks (one of them was that I was too nitty, like 17 vpip, so easy fix :) and I started beating it.

So might be that coach can find some leaks and you might start winning.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Thank you, guys, for the discussion here! It's a bit flattering to see how everyone is worried about why I'm not winning. I almost feel a remorse because I don't play almost at all latelly because of bunch of student exams I have to check and this thing with my car. At least I found (which looks like) a great car today and will buy it tomorrow, but also have to sell my old one (or should I say, what left of it) this week. Tomorrow morning will have a session with 1outerHITS (thank you again!) and am really looking for it. He made me think that I will hear some completelly different stuff than I'm used to, like the whole new paradigm (no pressure, man). :f_p:


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

Originally posted by Alleen86
Thank you, guys, for the discussion here! It's a bit flattering to see how everyone is worried about why I'm not winning. I almost feel a remorse because I don't play almost at all latelly because of bunch of student exams I have to check and this thing with my car. At least I found (which looks like) a great car today and will buy it tomorrow, but also have to sell my old one (or should I say, what left of it) this week. Tomorrow morning will have a session with 1outerHITS (thank you again!) and am really looking for it. He made me think that I will hear some completelly different stuff than I'm used to, like the whole new paradigm (no pressure, man). :f_p:

I guess some of us kind of do not want to believe that guy like you who works on game does not make it :) cause that means we also might not make it. If you are successful, then its easier to believe that we can do same :)


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Here is the report for Get Rich or Die Tryin' - The Bankroll Challenge:

Starting bankroll: 1.061,04 USD
Targeting bankroll: 5.305,20 USD
Last week bankroll: 1.930,40 USD
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Week 93
Hands (NL16): 1.950
Profit: -11,03 USD
Rakeback: 4,92 USD
Week 92 profit: -6,11 USD
Week 92 progress: -0,32%
Current bankroll: 1.924,29 USD
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Overall profit: 863,25 USD
Overall progress: 20,34%

Had a coaching with 1outerHITS today. Wil just say - WOW! :f_cool: We started at 8:00 and ended at almost 11:00 and he told me to make another one soon. I will respect his wish to not reveal details, ofcourse, but it was really eye-openning. There are so much things I'm currently doing and are outdated nowadays. It's almost like I didn't have a chance for success using the strategies I've used and thinking the way I did. There are alot of things to work on, both preflop and postflop and would also have to invest some % of my bankroll into some usefull tools.


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Eatyourpeas
Joined: 18.09.2012

Super glad to hear it mate! You deserve this turn of fate imo.


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AlvisR
Joined: 27.02.2009

Even if i dont play poker anymore, i follow quietly every 2nd blog :f_thumbsup: :f_thumbsup: :f_thumbsup:


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Thank you, guys! :f_thumbsup:

So, here is the report for Get Rich or Die Tryin' - The Bankroll Challenge:

Starting bankroll: 1.061,04 USD
Targeting bankroll: 5.305,20 USD
Last week bankroll: 1.924,29 USD
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Week 94
Hands (NL16): 0
Profit: 0,00 USD
Rakeback: 0,00 USD
Cashout: -287,43 USD (Buying poker software)
Week 94 profit: -287,43 USD
Week 94 progress: -14,94%
Current bankroll: 1.636,86 USD
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Overall profit: 575,82 USD
Overall progress: 13,57%

Didn't play a single hand this week because of bunch of private stuff (sold the old car and bought the new one, bunch of student exams to review etc.). The rest of the time was spent on developing the new preflop strategy, which is still in progress and can hardly wait to start implementing it (and see what will happen). Too bad (for my poker life) that tomorrow I'm going to the national informatics conference in Rovinj and will stay there untill Friday, so there is a chance that the next week will be another one wihout a single played hand... :f_frown:


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imfar
Joined: 20.07.2009

What is the software?


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010
Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Here is the report for Get Rich or Die Tryin' - The Bankroll Challenge:

Starting bankroll: 1.061,04 USD
Targeting bankroll: 5.305,20 USD
Last week bankroll: 1.636,86 USD
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Week 95
Hands (NL25): 916
Profit: -22,03 USD
Spin&Goes: 20
Profit: -6,00 USD
Rakeback: 0,00 USD
Week 95 profit: -28,03 USD
Week 95 progress: -1,71%
Current bankroll: 1.608,83 USD
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Overall profit: 547,79 USD
Overall progress: 12,91%

Had my first sessions after awhile and started to test the new preflop strategy. I updated my old ranges using PokerSnowie and HM2 database. That will not be available for downloading, ofcourse. :f_cool: Also started to use the new Bankroll Management where I need 60 buy-ins to play a limit and taking shots on the next one with 64. That's why I'm playing NL25 again (at least for now ). Hopefully will have more time for poker now and I'm planning to use it. :f_thumbsup:


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Here is the report for Get Rich or Die Tryin' - The Bankroll Challenge:

Starting bankroll: 1.061,04 USD
Targeting bankroll: 5.305,20 USD
Last week bankroll: 1.608,83 USD
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Week 96
Hands (NL25): 4.492
Profit: 44,82 USD
Rakeback: 26,80 USD
Week 96 profit: 71,62 USD
Week 96 progress: 4,45%
Current bankroll: 1.680,45 USD
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Overall profit: 619,41 USD
Overall progress: 14,59%

Had the 2nd coaching with 1outerHITS where we refined my preflop ranges further. I'm also using a PokerSnowie to train GTO poker and try to think why Snowie is doing something and how it should be different in the "real world", where we don't play against 5 Snowies. Also started to watch new asimoses videos because I believe he is currently one of the most relevant coaches at PokerStrategy. Hopefully all this will get me somewhere, closer to where I want to be.


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Alleen86
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Eatyourpeas
Joined: 18.09.2012

Why are you raising here mate?


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008
Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by Eatyourpeas
Why are you raising here mate?

At that point, since the pot is 4-way, my instant thought before I checked the flop was to check and raise if someone bets because it's very probable that someone has a Q and if that is the case, he won't get away. Also, my play would sometimes be interpreted like a bluff (why would I check/raise Qx or 44 there?). In case I slowplay, there are still alot of cards that can destroy me OTT and/or OTR, like another Q or any card that is now a kicker of someone who has Qx. Even 55 (actually, any pocket pair) has like 17% of equity OTF against my hand, AQ has 23%.

When I think about it now, I should maybe check/call and try to suck someone else into calling (+get more value vs BTN in case he has a pocket pair or a pure bluff).

But there is also another thing I've learned recently which is - don't slowplay your strong hands at micros (especially still vurnelable ones), which turned out true in this example, considering which hand he called with.

Thanks for pointing it out! :f_thumbsup:


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Yes true actually. I like a bet more in this case but man, what a donk :f_confused:


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Omg what a hand And you lost both runs, sick :f_mad:


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1outerHITS
Joined: 12.07.2014

Originally posted by Hesticus
Yes true actually. I like a bet more in this case but man, what a donk :f_confused:

You have to consider:

a) what hands do I get value from?
If you donk-bet flop, you only get calls by Qx and maybe JJ-99, sometimes 88-55 if you bet small enough

b) how much % of his range is this?
It's a very small portion of villains range

-> if we check it's likely that
I) someone turne something into a bluff
II) we can x/r to get more money in
III) in case everybody checks -> it's likely nobody has something
But now you have the chance the turn is a 9, T, J, K, A -> on these cards people make pairs you can get value from!!

-> on A, K you want to go for check/raise again, because a K, A is very likely to hit somebody (if you play against very passive opponents bet is better [if they check their TP])
-> on J, T, 9 you can bet,bet every runout having 99% equity against villains AJ, KJ, JT, J9, AT, KT, T9, T8, A9, K9, 98, 97 (whatever card comes) [or x/r against aggressive villains who bet their pairs themselves]
-> on another lowcard on the turn you maybe want to check again, because you just don't get much value from any hands (and don't x/r, instead x/c to not make villain fold his bluffs)

Donkbet flop is far from optimal in my opinion :f_drink:


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1outerHITS
Joined: 12.07.2014

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by Eatyourpeas
Why are you raising here mate?

At that point, since the pot is 4-way, my instant thought before I checked the flop was to check and raise if someone bets because it's very probable that someone has a Q and if that is the case, he won't get away. Also, my play would sometimes be interpreted like a bluff (why would I check/raise Qx or 44 there?). In case I slowplay, there are still alot of cards that can destroy me OTT and/or OTR, like another Q or any card that is now a kicker of someone who has Qx. Even 55 (actually, any pocket pair) has like 17% of equity OTF against my hand, AQ has 23%.

When I think about it now, I should maybe check/call and try to suck someone else into calling (+get more value vs BTN in case he has a pocket pair or a pure bluff).

But there is also another thing I've learned recently which is - don't slowplay your strong hands at micros (especially still vurnelable ones), which turned out true in this example, considering which hand he called with.

Thanks for pointing it out! :f_thumbsup:

x/r is fine

Against AQ etc. you have to protect your hand + you unblock Qx -> perfect x/r hand
- also not very likely he multibarrel bluffs multiway (4-way!) ... so it's not worst case if he folds a bluff


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