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TJ top pair in flop

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djchals
Joined: 09.01.2012

In the flop my SPR=5,5 aprox.

Because it, the better line is raise allin his pot bet i induced? He pays me with Tx poor, draw or 7, and if in the Turn or River shows high cards, the villain dont wants continue betting or calling. What line and size is better?

888 Poker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 42.85 BB (VPIP: 42.62, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.49, Hands: 250)
SB: 209.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 20.54, 3Bet Preflop: 6.55, Hands: 458)
Hero (BB): 40 BB
UTG: 273.65 BB (VPIP: 24.49, PFR: 18.08, 3Bet Preflop: 6.08, Hands: 444)
CO: 64.6 BB (VPIP: 90.91, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♦ J♥

fold, CO calls 1 BB, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (3.5 BB, 3 players) 3♥ 7♣ T♠
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 3.5 BB, Hero??

Spoiler

Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, BTN calls 3.5 BB
Turn: (17.5 BB, 2 players) K♥
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (17.5 BB, 2 players) A♣
Hero checks, BTN checks

Hero shows T♦ J♥ (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 74%, Flop 82%, Turn 86%)
BTN mucks T♥ 8♦ (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 26%, Flop 18%, Turn 14%)
Hero wins 16.65 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would normal bet 2bb myself with Tx for thin value in a multi way pot and if someone is raising you have an easy fold with the weak kicker you have. As played I don’t think you can raise for value on his pot size bet and I would call 1 street and give up if he’s firing again.

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plopfessional
Joined: 21.09.2016

first of we have to look at BTNs pre flop stats. 43/25/4 looks extremly loose preflop. I would assume that he would raise a lot of AT-JT hands in this spot. He looks like he plays 60% hands in this spot.

I would lead the flop, as well. I would rather check raise slightly stronger hands (KT,QT). It is just very miserable if it checks through and an overcard comes on the turn.
Check is of course not horrible. I like to have a raising range here but I would like to be certain I beat all Tx hands he has. I think if we raise he will have T7-TQ, 77 a lot of the time. Since we are out of position we probably can't avoid to gii on t+r if he calls and the board remains save for us. Also we have to fold top pair on the flop if we get reraised. All of these make me like a call with TJ better.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

As played, fold.

You focus too much on your SPR (which is big enough that it doesn't matter). B t w, you count it before action takes place. You have 10x+ times the pot.

The important fact is that (after your failure to bet out) face a PSB (Pot Sized Bet). Your only hope is that he is bluffing in a 3-handed pot (unlikely). You could call a normal (50-70%) bet. Raising would be a bluff. Why turn TPNK (Top Pair No Kicker) into an expensive check-raise bluff? I'm sure a check-raise AI would take down the pot most of the time, but you'd be giving yourself odds of 7:39. These aren't good odds. (Risk 39 to win 7).


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