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AA OTR vs Donkpush drawheavy

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Guthans
Joined: 16.12.2009

Hey again,
Is this a snapfold? I mean do we ever beat anything here? Sure, your random bluff as in this case, but every single draw hit so his bluffshove is pretty good, right?
I realize that I should have raised it up abit more OTT to make my rivershove somewhat better and to extract more value from draws.
He was playing superloose with 57/29 preflop.

[hand_history]Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (20/40 blinds, 5 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37647912

UTG+1: 9,940 (248.5 bb)
UTG+2: 4,146 (103.7 bb)
MP1: 5,099 (127.5 bb)
MP2: 6,083 (152.1 bb)
Hero (MP3): 4,995 (124.9 bb)
CO: 4,568 (114.2 bb)
BTN: 5,929 (148.2 bb)
SB: 4,639 (116 bb)
BB: 3,290 (82.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♠ A♣
3 folds, MP2 raises to 160, Hero raises to 480, 4 folds, MP2 calls 320

Flop: (1,065) 9♣ 6♦ K♣ (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets 511, MP2 calls 511

Turn: (2,087) 2♦ (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets 1,002, MP2 calls 1,002

River: (4,091) T♣ (2 players)
MP2 bets 4,085 and is all-in, Hero calls 2,997 and is all-in

[/hand_history][replayer=37647912][/replayer][/converted_hand]


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samni
Joined: 06.08.2009

The T♣: is like the worst card in the deck for you as you said. Every straight and flushdraw gets there. We block the nutflush though so we have to think about hands he calls a 3bet pre with and continues on this board. Problem is, he's playing loosey goosey so he easily has loads of QJ, KT, 66, 99, K9s, 78s, random club combo's in his range. Given the line he takes and all the above arguments (he has loads of hands that beat us) we have a clearcut fold on the river. If he really is bluffing here (or for some reason valuebetting AK here) then more power to him but I wouldn't risk a healthy remaining stack to find out.


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Guthans
Joined: 16.12.2009

Mhm, indeed. I just couldn't find a fold in this spot, even though as you say it's pretty clearcut. Sometimes I get alittle too attached to busting certain looseygooseys with preflop nuts and when the runout is unfavourable I sometimes snap stuff without thinking about it too deeply.

Just for fun, the villain actually held J9 of spades, lol :f_o:


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would fold the river as well. The only thing you could change is to big more on every street against loose passive players like him post-flop to extract more value on the long run.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Kinghu
Joined: 27.09.2016

I think i'd have bet more on the flop like 60% it means on turn pot is 2200 ish and we have 4000ish means if betting more than 1/3 stack (1200) it's ok to shove, so if turn isn't a club or 10 shove.

We will lose if they made trips but it's most likely the best way to take down what is now a big pot straight away and put of the flush straight draws he most likely has.


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