3 bet pot. Good spot to bluff

1. It is not a 3b pot. It is a 4b pot.
2. Bluffs are tooooo expensive in 4b pots.

Originally posted by nitrol
1. It is not a 3b pot. It is a 4b pot.
2. Bluffs are tooooo expensive in 4b pots.

+1 and even then, we need more information of the villain as well. Especially on 888Poker there are a lot of bad players that you can’t bluff against and without info it’s already tricky to 4bet bluff pre-flop here.

Cheers,
SDK1987

4B preflop is too wide. I would probably check back OTF, we have almost no equity there. As played, I wouldn´t go for bluff, however if u want to do so, you should shove it OTR, betting 1/2 you generate almost no FE imo. Going all in OTR wouldn´t be bad play, I think if villain is a decent, he is folding a lot.

nitrol is wrong: "Pot is big" is no excuse for not bluffing. Players not bluffing cannot win consistently in poker against those who are wise enough to bluff (all else equal). "Expensive" is an absolute term. Think in relative terms. You should bluff with the same frequency whether the pot is big or not (provided there is enough money in the stacks).

1.) Preflop 4-bet is indeed too wide unless you consider it a bluff.
2.) River is a bad spot to bluff. You have shown weakness as well (checking back turn) and while the 3♣: fills up a flush, there aren't many flush combos you can represent well.

This is in my standard 4bet bluff range but against some villains (or in a player pool full of calling stations) I think it would be ok to just fold it pre too.
I would skip the flop cbet because you hit nothing and villains 4bet calling range can probably call at least once on this board.
I would not continue betting OTT when villain calls you OTF. I would just give up.
Betting half pot OTR while not blocking any of villains flushes is no good imo.

Yohan: Isn´t it good to check our flush draws OTT? I think it makes sense to bomb it with flush OTR, so it shouldn´t be that bad to bluff? Truth is I´d do it rather with some spade...

Yes, checking flush draws on turn is fine, but how many do you have? It is a 4-bet pot. There's perhaps A♣:Q♣:, but what else do you 4-bet? You can't represent only a single combo credibly on the river. But I agree, it isn't that bad since some will just think "flush came in, I fold".

150BB effective i dont mind either ways, but when 4betting or calling you need to consider if villain has a 4b calling range in that spot, how much is he folding, approximate his 3b range BBvsBU before doing either. The flop is hitting his calling range pretty much, and you have not much fold equity only drawing to a J to barrel and no BDFD i dont really like CBetting. River bet is spewy since you are not value betting thin enough to justify bluffing so wide, expecially after X Q♥: turn, and with no blockers.

villain's not going to fold AQ, AK. you are losing a lot of cash calling 4bet with hands such as ATo. If you know he 4 bet lights with A5-A4, 99-TT I'd consider calling with AQs but ATo is not worthy to invest entering in a 4bet pot imo.

The flop and turn are bad to bluff as they hit villain's rang hard.
TL;DR ATo is usually a huge underdog into a 4bet pot and is dominated by AJ+, TT; Also i f you are going to 4bet light you might consider 4betting 2x-2.5x

In this case I'd just fold pre. You will avoid a lot of unhappy situations

It makes sense to use ATo as a 4b bluff so i like that, would probably use a smaller sizing with my enitre 4b range though, to make our bluffs cheaper. I would probably if i cb this board use a small sizing as 1.25$. The rest have been mentioned by the others!