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$1.5 6max K8s from SB

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tzoun
Joined: 02.05.2009

Poker Stars, $1.32 Buy-in (10/20 blinds, 3 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): 1,477 (73.9 bb)
BB: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
UTG: 1,575 (78.8 bb)
MP: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
CO: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
BTN: 1,457 (72.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8♦: K♦:
4 folds, Hero completes, BB checks

Flop: (58) 4♦: K♥: 9♠: (2 players)
Hero bets 38, BB calls 38

Turn: (134) 4♣: (2 players)
Hero bets 60, BB calls 60

River: (254) 3♥: (2 players)
Hero bets 80, BB raises to 349, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

414 pot
Final Board: 4♦: K♥: 9♠: 4♣: 3♥:
Hero mucked 8♦: K♦: and lost (-201 net)
BB mucked and won 414 (213 net)

The BB had stats Vpip:30 Pfr:30 in 10 hands

My bet on the river I made it so if a get raised I can fold, but for sure it seems weak and I get re raised cause of that. Is there a better approach?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would play the hand the same way against an unknown. The only thing is that you could bet the river a little bit more for thin value, but I don’t think he will raise with worse there.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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JKV89
Joined: 05.03.2017

Well done


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Okkernootje
Joined: 02.09.2013

Not the best hand or board to bet 3 streets for value, super dry with absolutely no draws out there.
Therefore I would check turn I for both pot control and delay/time my value moment on the river if villain checks behind ott.

Not the best (nor easiest) spot to be in imo with our TP middle kicker. Easy fold to the river raise btw.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I think it depends also a lot of the player we are dealing with. Against a loose passive player, you maybe even get 3 streets of value, but it’s close for sure.


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msmozzarella
Joined: 14.03.2017

Good river fold as played. However I don't see what hands you could possibly get 3 streets of value from. When he calls the flop, I would assume he has something, since cbets on KXX flops tend to make trash hands fold. Of course he could always be a giant fish who happily calls down every street, but I would want to see some evidence for that before I act upon it.

I did a little experiment in Equilab for my personal amusement. If we assume BB would check the worst 70 % of his hands preflop (since his pfr stat is 30 %), and only call the flop with a pair or better, when the 4 hits the turn, you only have about 50% equity against his range. In this case, there is no thin value to be had. Take this with a big grain of salt, but it's just my thought process.


Board: 4♦K♥9♠ 4♣
       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     48.96%  41.07%   7.90% { Kd8d }
BB     51.04%  43.14%   7.90% { 33-22, 4h4s, 4h4c, 4s4c, 9d7d, 9h7h, 9c7c, 9d6d, 9h6h, 9c6c, 9d5d, 9h5h, 9c5c, Ks4s, Kc4c, Qh4h, Qs4s, Qc4c, Jh4h, Js4s, Jc4c, Th4h, Ts4s, Tc4c, 9h4h, 9c4c, 8h4h, 8s4s, 8c4c, 7h4h, 7s4s, 7c4c, 6h4h, 6s4s, 6c4c, 5h4h, 5s4s, 5c4c, Ks3s, Kc3c, 9d3d, 9h3h, 9c3c, 4h3h, 4s3s, 4c3c, Ks2s, Kc2c, 9d2d, 9h2h, 9c2c, 4h2h, 4s2s, 4c2c, Ad4h, Ad4s, Ad4c, Ah4s, Ah4c, As4h, As4c, Ac4h, Ac4s, Ks8h, Ks8c, Kc8h, Kc8s, Ks7d, Ks7h, Ks7c, Kc7d, Kc7h, Kc7s, Ks6d, Ks6h, Ks6c, Kc6d, Kc6h, Kc6s, Ks5d, Ks5h, Ks5c, Kc5d, Kc5h, Kc5s, Ks4h, Ks4c, Kc4h, Kc4s, Ks3d, Ks3h, Ks3c, Kc3d, Kc3h, Kc3s, Ks2d, Ks2h, Ks2c, Kc2d, Kc2h, Kc2s, Qd4h, Qd4s, Qd4c, Qh4s, Qh4c, Qs4h, Qs4c, Qc4h, Qc4s, Jd4h, Jd4s, Jd4c, Jh4s, Jh4c, Js4h, Js4c, Jc4h, Jc4s, Td4h, Td4s, Td4c, Th4s, Th4c, Ts4h, Ts4c, Tc4h, Tc4s, 9d8h, 9d8s, 9d8c, 9h8s, 9h8c, 9c8h, 9c8s, 9d7h, 9d7s, 9d7c, 9h7d, 9h7s, 9h7c, 9c7d, 9c7h, 9c7s, 9d6h, 9d6s, 9d6c, 9h6d, 9h6s, 9h6c, 9c6d, 9c6h, 9c6s, 9d5h, 9d5s, 9d5c, 9h5d, 9h5s, 9h5c, 9c5d, 9c5h, 9c5s, 9d4h, 9d4s, 9d4c, 9h4s, 9h4c, 9c4h, 9c4s, 9d3h, 9d3s, 9d3c, 9h3d, 9h3s, 9h3c, 9c3d, 9c3h, 9c3s, 9d2h, 9d2s, 9d2c, 9h2d, 9h2s, 9h2c, 9c2d, 9c2h, 9c2s, 8h4s, 8h4c, 8s4h, 8s4c, 8c4h, 8c4s, 7d4h, 7d4s, 7d4c, 7h4s, 7h4c, 7s4h, 7s4c, 7c4h, 7c4s, 6d4h, 6d4s, 6d4c, 6h4s, 6h4c, 6s4h, 6s4c, 6c4h, 6c4s, 5d4h, 5d4s, 5d4c, 5h4s, 5h4c, 5s4h, 5s4c, 5c4h, 5c4s, 4h3d, 4h3s, 4h3c, 4s3d, 4s3h, 4s3c, 4c3d, 4c3h, 4c3s, 4h2d, 4h2s, 4h2c, 4s2d, 4s2h, 4s2c, 4c2d, 4c2h, 4c2s }

Maybe just check the turn with the intention of calling a bet, to keep some bluffs in his range. If he checks behind, he very rarely has a 4 and we can bet for value and hope to get called by 9's and PP's.


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tzoun
Joined: 02.05.2009

It is helpfull your thought process, I also think it depents on the opponent.


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