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Flop nuts on T64ddd with Ad*d EP raiser Cbets full pot? What to do? SPR4

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FlyingDutchm1n
Joined: 21.08.2012

Hi guys just wanted to ask you on flop T64ddd and flop SPR4 original raiser Cbets full pot I think If I check raise here it screams nuts and I want to keep bluffs and lower flushes and sets in the hand. Can also be a lot of KKdd,QQdd or whatevers in the hand. What do you do however when the turn pairs (with SPR4 on flop, there is still 1 potsized bet behind on turn)? No stats on villain but pretty splashy (also considering his EP open with crappy TT).

Turn was a 6 I called off the turncbet as well, he had top set TTT based full house so maybe results oriented but I thought my flatcall on flop was good? Would you guys "fear" the turn pairing or just get it in on any turn with turn spr 1? Do you raise flop just because you want to avoid seeing an unfavorable turn? Or did my opponent just get lucky here (7 outer even though he himself bet pot like he did not have the odds vs my hand if he would do this infinitely he would only see a paired flop like 16% of the time and 84% of the time not)?

Thank you for answering.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

My view is that if villain is bad enough to pot a monochrome flop with top set (which doesn't need much protection since people don't want to draw to straights on such boards) then he's bad enough to call our potsize raise.

What I mean is that we don't need to worry about keeping in bluffs. As soon as we 'just' call potsize bet on this board we say "I have a flush". So he checks back to try to boat up otr.


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ZakYoun270
Joined: 10.12.2015

Was it heads up or multi-way? A hi flush is often a good spot to slowplay, especially if there are more people in the pot. Even if they have a set it is only about 17.5% chance they fill up on the turn. Two pair is 10%. If they don't have a set they are dead and raising will usually let them off the hook, whether they have the flush or not.


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FlyingDutchm1n
Joined: 21.08.2012

It was HU and against a pretty wide opener, I myself thought there are many more flushdraw combos here then setcombos and I just thought ok he has 7 outs if he does flop the unlikely set on T64ddd unfortunately he did have top set but I was just thinking the other 85% or so it is an easy call all in on the turn and I think he would have pushed the flush still as well on a pairing turn so that is why I was thinking the call on flop is good. Was stunned to see the top set but what can you do. What tim said also made sense though was this guy really gonna fold to a raise? Still thinking that maybe I should have gotten it in, but on the other hand how often I get folds on the flop when you check raise also makes me doubt that play. Partly player dependent I guess, the other day there was a guy who 4bet the flopped 5hi flush on the flop you know even though I raised him but that is more exception than the rule for sure.


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coldchurch
Joined: 20.02.2013

Just call on the flop. Give him the chance to bluff on turn. :-)


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coldchurch
Joined: 20.02.2013

By the way, next time post the official hand history. That makes the discussion and analysis a lot easier.


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