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Maybe I shouldn't c-bet this board, maybe call his raise?

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kappozo
Joined: 16.04.2014

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 3072533
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BTN: $2.37
SB: $3.92
BB: $3.63
UTG: $2.00
MP: $2.04
Hero (CO): $2.25

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with A :club: A :heart:
UTG raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.18, 1 fold, SB calls $0.17, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.56) K :heart: 6 :heart: Q :club: (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.32, SB folds, UTG raises to $0.90, Hero folds


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

With an over pair, I would cbet this all day even in a multiway pot. You want to protect your hand against draws and especially on NL2 you get easy value as well.

We don’t know anything of the UTG player and we are blocking most flush draws and with this stack dynamic I would push or fold this hand. Without this info, this seems like a good fold. I don’t think he would check/raise with top pair or worse.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Overpair, wet board, mw - we should cbet flop.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010
Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

We cbet indeed. However, as played, we can call. We block nut flushdraw.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

you can always add a bb or two raising a utg (stronger range)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by Dadramel
you can always add a bb or two raising a utg (stronger range)

Good point. Doesn't mean much in one hand, but makes a difference over time (at least as much as polishing preflop ranges back and forth for days and weeks and months).


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BingoWings
Joined: 14.04.2017

Originally posted by YohanN7

Originally posted by Dadramel
you can always add a bb or two raising a utg (stronger range)

Good point. Doesn't mean much in one hand, but makes a difference over time (at least as much as polishing preflop ranges back and forth for days and weeks and months).

Id say its as important, no more no less. Every decision you make be it preflop sizing or hand selection when taking certain actions are all going to be very important to you. It's no good doing random things with random hands without any planning. And will all go along way to improve hand reading skills. Telling micro stakes players not to learn about ranges isn't going to help them improve imo.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Eh sb cold called a MP 3bet then UTG called feels like strong ranges of hell are in the house

At higher stakes flop's a clear check with the Ah I'd say vs 2 regs.

I like your bet at NL2 though as people will just tell you when you're beat by raising and you can just jam the turn when you get called, only thing you're afraid of is that he overplays AK


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BingoWings
Joined: 14.04.2017

Originally posted by LemOn36
Eh sb cold called a MP 3bet then UTG called feels like strong ranges of hell are in the house

At higher stakes flop's a clear check with the Ah I'd say vs 2 regs.

I like your bet at NL2 though as people will just tell you when you're beat by raising and you can just jam the turn when you get called, only thing you're afraid of is that he overplays AK

Even if he only has the remaining AKs combos to do this with we have 45% equity Vs that and QQ , so would be enough to gii ? . Problem also is over calls can be KQs 66 QQ and SB is still to act. I'm not really familiar with stars though i believe its nittier than other sites ? so maybe fold.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

yeah exactly
you're rarely are making a big mistake here by folding even if he is bad enough to raise AK as the SB with his cold call range is still behind you so you're somewhat protected.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Btw guys of course while I'm here I need to plug something

Go vote for which MicroGrinder's episode you enjoyed the most
and if you haven't already you can see how your fellow microstakes heroes are doing in videos linked in the thread
https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=2657072#post2657072


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Thanks LemOn36, I voted as well now


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by BingoWings

Originally posted by YohanN7

Originally posted by Dadramel
you can always add a bb or two raising a utg (stronger range)

Good point. Doesn't mean much in one hand, but makes a difference over time (at least as much as polishing preflop ranges back and forth for days and weeks and months).

Id say its as important, no more no less. Every decision you make be it preflop sizing or hand selection when taking certain actions are all going to be very important to you. It's no good doing random things with random hands without any planning. And will all go along way to improve hand reading skills. Telling micro stakes players not to learn about ranges isn't going to help them improve imo.

(My emphasis in quote)

Where do I do that? This is vastly different. I talk about sizing.

But I do understand what you refer to. Unlike many (perhaps most, perhaps even all) posters, I place smaller emphasis on preflop decisions than postflop decisions. The rationale is simple: Preflop bets are small. Bets on turn and river are big.

Thus, for instance, acquiring a GTO preflop squeeze range from the small blind before you know how to play very well postflop is detrimental. That imagined "auto-profit" that you may very well actually have is then eaten up and more those times your squeeze gets called.

Another point is that versus sub-optimal competition, well-polished preflop ranges (against imagined GTO opponents with 100 bb stacks) are far from optimal. Such ranges are very important only much higher up than beginner tables. I have seen pretty awful ranges produced by Snowie saying e.g. that you should fold JTs on the button to a UTG 3 bb open. And people think it is the word of god. Wow!

A third point is that so many preflop decisions are so marginal, that it, everything else disregarded, pretty much doesn't matter what you do. But if you do not disregard everything else, and consider how well you and your opponents play after the flop, then it does matter what you do. But have you seen any player here say something along the lines "I squeeze somewhat less than <yourfavouritecoachhere> advocates because I'm uncertain about how to play certain flops with suited connectors OOP"?


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