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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $34.34 (137.4 bb)
BB: $74.20 (296.8 bb)
UTG: $21.06 (84.2 bb)
MP: $12.94 (51.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $25.70 (102.8 bb)
BTN: $63.36 (253.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K♦: 9♣: 8♦: K♣:
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.90, 3 folds, MP raises to $9.05, Hero calls $6.15

Flop: ($18.45) K♠: T♠: 4♦: (2 players)
MP bets $3.89 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.89

Turn: ($26.23) 4♣: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($26.23) 3♦: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$26.23 pot ($1.11 rake)
Final Board: K♠: T♠: 4♦: 4♣: 3♦:
MP showed A♦: A♥: T♥: 6♠: and lost (-$12.94 net)
Hero showed K♦: 9♣: 8♦: K♣: and won $25.12 ($12.18 net)

Villain is 20/12, 71 hands.
Such hands confuse me. Feels like I turn a very strong hand into a marginal spot...

I see the hand and go for 3b 'automatically'. Once facing the 4b we put the guy on AA and suddenly we are in very tough spot because he is so short so we don't get great implieds despite postion... Thing is, for the price, I probably can't fold any board at all unless it is dry A high - so is there much point calling rather than 5bet all in? Or should I just sigh 3b/fold to begin with?

Did I missplay or am I overthinking?


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

Difficult spot since your hand is very strong and 3betting recommended, but this guy is so tight that he will show up with aces almost always.

I dont think it makes sense to just call with KK, there is so little behind that you will have to go broke virtually any flop anyway and he has some other hand than AA and you end up folding it would be a catastrophy. You get almost right odds anyway against AA when he 4bets, so I guess it's sigh and all-in, in case he can have AKK or some other premiums too.


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SuperChompa
Joined: 26.07.2016

3b/fold for me :f_cool:


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

If we're 3b/f this hand then isn't flatting pre preferable?


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SuperChompa
Joined: 26.07.2016

I don't think he 4 bets often enough to make flatting > 3 bet


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Fair enough - makes sense; thanks.


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potyka007
Joined: 01.09.2007

Sorry,

I count a little bit.

Hand Equity Wins Ties
KdKs9s8d 37.98% 227,453 862
AA** 62.02% 371,685 862

Pot odds:

6,15/16,19 (12,3+3,89) = 38%

Is this correct?


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

When someone pots, your pot odds are 33,33%. 6,15 / 18,45


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

You need 40% to stack off preflop. Against AAxx you have 38%. Sometimes people shove funny hands, especially when they are short (they have lost a big pot and haven't reloaded). If you are 100% SURE that he has Aces (we don't ever have this information), then make a tight fold. Otherwise just get it in preflop.


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