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AKo - 3bet pot OOP, call down?

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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 141.8 BB (VPIP: 18.31, PFR: 12.68, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 74)
SB: 217.4 BB (VPIP: 29.11, PFR: 17.72, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 83)
Hero (BB): 217.8 BB
UTG: 337.3 BB (VPIP: 23.04, PFR: 17.54, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 390)
MP: 92.9 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 18.84, 3Bet Preflop: 6.85, Hands: 210)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ K♦

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 8 BB, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (27.5 BB, 3 players) 4♥ K♠ 4♦
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets 14.5 BB, Hero calls 14.5 BB, fold

Turn: (56.5 BB, 2 players) 7♦
Hero checks, CO bets 22.7 BB, Hero raises to 194.3 BB and is all-in, CO calls 53.8 BB and is all-in

River: (209.5 BB, 2 players) 2♥

Hero shows A♣ K♦ (Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
(Pre 7%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
CO shows A♦ A♠ (Two Pair, Aces and Fours)
(Pre 93%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
CO wins 200.1 BB

I ship the turn to prevent a third diamond hitting in case of a backdoor. I felt like the money was going in either way and was vs either KQ, AK or AA.
Correct play?


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pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

here it depends on how many times he double and triple barrels with all his bluffs. If its high than check call him down. Outherwise reevaluate river.


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AdrianDragan
Joined: 31.10.2012

Its a bit of a nasty spot.If CO is totally unknown you can actually 4bet fold here.You have a lot of credit due to an UTG open and a CO 3bet.On the onther hand when CO goes all in its hard to call.The problem with flatting there is they can play so easy against you and you are very very fit or fold oop...If CO is a bit loose i think you have to 4Bet call.
I just cant agree with flattin a 3bet in 100 bbs unless its smth like utg opens and some fish 3bets small,youre in late with some pocket pair and you get a juicy price to see a set if the utg is not holding premium.Other than that god damn your range is capped.


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KatalonacX
Joined: 22.11.2013

Correct play, I would go broke everytime, but this happens very rare.


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Deomedes
Joined: 12.11.2011

I would call if UTG is a fish and 4bet/fold if not. OTT why we raise? I m honestly curious for the reasoning behind the raise OTT.

It s not that i fear AA but we can make an argument of just calling being a better play.


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andschool
Joined: 13.05.2014

In the best case scenario CO has KA doesnt he?...He cant have QQ or KQ.
Id proceed with caution but i suppose id lay it down OTT but Id hate my life at the same time.
We are only hoping to be ahead in these situations.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

call pre is definitely bad.
i just fold pre tbh, assuming CO and UTG are standard decent nl10 players then CO's 3bet vs utg should already be quite stacked towards strong hands, it's really no surprise that he shows AA.
4bet/fold might be decent for blocker effect but still feels like burning money to me, you are effectively hoping CO has a super wide bluffing range or folds his QQ/AK sometimes because he's obviously not continuing with hands like AQ.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

I definitely didn't play this correct.
I don't think preflop is the problem here. 4 bet folding isn't right; and folding outright is too tight.

Postflop, I think calling down would probably of been optimal as he doesn't have many diamond draws in his hand as we hold the king of diamonds.
I should of nitted it out here,.. at best on the turn when he bets we are chopping. Really big mistake from me. πŸ˜“πŸ˜”


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

You scare off the pot only worse hands that you have by doing that


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Fanko
Joined: 24.08.2010

If you are going to fold TPTK on that board you should just fold preflop.

Pretty easy check/call turn.


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011

Wait why are we considering folding AK here preflop? Preflop is fine of course. People generally don't just 3bet the nuts anymore even CO vs UTG. They will have bluffs in their 3betting range so they can still definitely have hands like ATs, KQs, etc which you dominate. And UTG can also definitely call the 3bet with worse than AK especially after a coldcall because he gets better odds.

Postflop I like check/calling down best as well I suppose. Don't expect him to bluff river too much so maybe you could find a tight fold there (depends on river card as well as villain's tendencies I suppose). But flop and turn I'd say check/call is your best option. Keeps his range as wide as possible. With no info I probably check/call river as well though not super happy about it.


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Fanko
Joined: 24.08.2010

We are not considering folding preflop, but if we are going to fold to cbets on that board our call would make no sense at all. If you call preflop, then u pretty much have to check/call flop + turn at the minimum (also most rivers as well).


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011

Was talking about the other guys earlier, I understood what you meant :)

Agree 100%.


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nguyenhieudl
Joined: 15.02.2013

really hard to play this hand , because you block almost his range beating you , i usually 4bet vs this guy , and 210 hand i need some infomation for call or fold at preflop , because he 3b vs utg sometime he 3b bluff because you hold AKo , you block almost his 3b vs block ,


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