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Dr1fter808
Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017
Posts: 3,241
26.10.2017, 12:12

Small sample size but F3 33, AF 4.5, FCB 43

He could have A2o but folding QQ seemed meh to me...

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PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 268.84 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 17)
SB: 106.64 BB (VPIP: 19.74, PFR: 12.45, 3Bet Preflop: 2.72, Hands: 478)
Hero (BB): 102 BB
UTG: 91.76 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 22.81, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 57)
MP: 29.6 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 6)
CO: 173.44 BB (VPIP: 45.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♦ Q♥

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, CO calls 6 BB

Flop: (18.4 BB, 2 players) 4♦ 3♦ A♠
Hero bets 10 BB, CO calls 10 BB

Turn: (38.4 BB, 2 players) 7♣
Hero checks, CO bets 18.36 BB, Hero calls 18.36 BB

River: (75.12 BB, 2 players) J♣
Hero checks, CO checks


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Spidey1978
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26.10.2017, 21:58

I think I would have played the same way.

Would you check/fold the River?


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Dr1fter808
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26.10.2017, 23:32

Against his wide range, I think leading flop is good for protection against draws and bluffs.

I seriously considered leading turn again but opted to check/call.

River changes nothing so I feel that we have to check/call. If he goes all in then it's a tough spot.


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insomnia666
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27.10.2017, 00:16

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Against his wide range, I think leading flop is good for protection against draws and bluffs.

If he goes all in then it's a tough spot.

"Protection against bluffs". I can't understand this. When you bet with this size, OTT his range isn't so wide anymore. You need this combos to make this Hero calls, so many combos are better, than QQ already OTF.
I want to give you a friendly advice. Make all comfortable for you. If you don't want to call a shove, then bet OTF and check-fold OTT. Bet OTF, check-call OTT, check-fold OTR. Or check-call OTF, check-fold OTT. Or check-call OTF, check-call OTT, check-fold OTR. Or check-call 3 times AI.
Nobody can tell you "This is wrong, but this is right". Because nobody knows. Use the stats and the board. Find your way.
But man, "bet OTF, check-call OTT and OTR" definitely is not my way . Can you justify a call only with missed draws?


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Dr1fter808
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27.10.2017, 00:50

Hey thanks for the input. Based on the little stats that we have, what range are you giving him other than Ax?


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insomnia666
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27.10.2017, 01:05

I edited my post, was AFK. You simply can't call, because of the bet OTF.


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Dr1fter808
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27.10.2017, 02:00

Wait, I take back what I said about the Jack on river being a nothingburger. I think he has all manners of two pairs in his range should he show strength like J4o, J3o. And two pair draw without the Ace is a decent part of his call down range.


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insomnia666
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27.10.2017, 03:53

I mean you can't call vs some reasonable range. 26-27%, still very wide, but nothing too crazy. I mean, even if he have let's say 60% from CO, most likely he will have this range OTF.
Why this hands? You have some info? I think this stats is not enough.
"J4o, J3o", Omg, snap call then.


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