QQ NL5

Turn's scary dude. I'm probably checking it for pot control. A better hand will hopefully bet river and I'm likely pay them. If they check raise my value bet on river...not a good spot.

Originally posted by deezerr79
Turn's scary dude. I'm probably checking it for pot control. A better hand will hopefully bet river and I'm likely paying them. If they check raise my value bet on river...not a good spot.

There are still a lot of draws and even more opened OTT. I think checking behind and giving a free card would be a mistake. It is a lot better to bet the turn, charge draws and Jx hands and then check behind OTR than check OTR, give free card and then call the river when villain bets.

As played is fine. At NL5 these turn min raises are often way too value heavy so you could consider making an exploitative fold, but on that haves this many draws and vs a minraise I would call too.

well played

Good play i think

i hate these min-raises. but I think I'd have played same like you

Hey

Hand is played great. OTT you can fold and it isn't a mistake, but I don't think calling is either. The board is so bad you could think about underbetting IP and then checking back river. There is a population read at these limits, and the turn min raise is usually 2pair+, but I as la55i said the expectation isn't going to be that different.

BB calls with a lot of broaways and suited connecters here, so there is a lot of 2pair and some sets in his/her range, however I would expect 66, 88 to be raising here. There are a LOT of draws. 79 completes on the turn and TT sets up.

The EV from folding and calling is probably pretty close imo.

I love to play vs. turn minraises. In this case I'd bet/fold as well. Imagine that we also have many FD's, backdoors included, where we can call with superb odds.
We have many sets as well, where we can bet/3bet - JJ, TT, 88, 66. Sometimes some Q9s.
I think bet/folding QQ-AA is ok at this spot. (Against average opponent at microstakes)

Ofc, checking back OTT is a big mistake.

Since Villain didn't raise OTF I think that Turn improved his hand like TT, 79s, JTs, AcJc. He has some few sets and we have so many. See, where I'm going?

Poeple make mistake by x/r two pair here and we actually can outplay them by having our range stronger. No QQ, no KK, no AA.

You can't really give free cards to draws, so checking is imo bad. As said before, those min-raises are rather annoying, but you played the hand well.

There was a Theorem about facing a turn raise that I do not know if it is still valid...
But still fold turn and move on.
As played, the flush too came on river and we can fold.