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AKo vs cold 4bet shove preflop

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KonradK0
Joined: 24.05.2017

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 129.5 BB
SB: 102 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 88 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
UTG: 50.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP: 104 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (CO): 116.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♥ K♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, SB raises to 12 BB, BB raises to 88 BB and is all-in, Hero?

What to do with no info on villain? Doesn't have full stack so hes fish?
I dont see him doing that with hands other than AA or KK specifically
Feels like I'm crushed vs his range there
But isn't it just standard call/move on given it's NL2? :f_zZz:


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Bebabcsinya
Joined: 01.12.2016

A not fullstack player is not always a fish, he could even be just a bad regular.
I would just fold here, and continue with KK+, maybe QQ because of his stack size. You need BB to push many Ax combos here to be ahead, and since you haven't invested much in this spot, calling his AI would come along with a lot of variance.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

vs fish -> call, vs reg -> fold.
if you always fold it's alright, remember you only invested 2.5


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KonradK0
Joined: 24.05.2017

That's what I figured, I'm not losing/gaining much equity in the long run there I think?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

well EV of folding = 0

so what about calling?
since you're calling such a massively huge "overbet", you need to be close to ahead of BB's range (you cannot call against AK,QQ+ range as you have only ~39%)
and SB is still uncapped and might be ahead of you as well. i think it's a relatively not difficult fold


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CiTral6077
Joined: 16.08.2011

Snapcall when he is fish. get sucked out by A3o.


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lfcmichael
Joined: 30.10.2016

It’s a huge cold 4-bet here. I think most people don’t push AI like that. It’s probably AA or KK, and then we’re almost dead. Having invested just the original raise, I’d be happy to fold this without reads that he likes to bluff 4-bet a lot or overplays weaker hands that way.


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KatalonacX
Joined: 22.11.2013

Viliain looks like fish, but sample is too small, and we don't know how he play. Nobody write about SB squeese, he also can have big hand, fold is best imo.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I think folding is a good option here. We have invested so little and we need so much equity to break even here.


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CucumbaMan
Joined: 13.10.2017

Yes, as pretty much everybody said you could just fold here, and wait for another spot.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

And what about the fact that there are players yet to act and that can join the pot? Is this good for a call or is it not?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Then you need off course less equity if 1 of the players behind will call, but then you are most likely even in worse shape if that will happen. Especially the SB will only call with premiums if we would stack off.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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