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semibluffing on a monotone board in position

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briccius
Joined: 26.06.2007

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 206 BB
SB: 119.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 113.8 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 119.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 18)
MP: 100 BB
CO: 111.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 18)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♦ Q♥

UTG raises to 2.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.4 BB, fold, BB calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (7.6 BB, 3 players) 9♦ T♦ 4♦
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 3.4 BB, BB calls 3.4 BB, fold

Turn: (14.4 BB, 2 players) 5♠
BB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, BB calls 7 BB

River: (28.4 BB, 2 players) 8♣
BB checks, Hero bets 12.8 BB, BB calls 12.8 BB

Hero shows K♦ Q♥ (High Card, King)
(Pre 75%, Flop 81%, Turn 86%)
BB shows Q♦ J♥ (Straight, Queen High)
(Pre 25%, Flop 19%, Turn 14%)
BB wins 51.8 BB

Flop:

after both players check, I think I can take a stab at this board with a draw to the 2nd nut flush, a GS to the nut straight and 2 overcards?

Turn:

after I miss, I decided to continue barreling. I think now I should prefer to take a free card. If you meet resistance on a monotone board, it should be taken somewhat seriously in my experience. Also, I am probably not folding out to many better hands, since Adx is prone to call again, as well as cautios 2pair, set or OP combos, maybe even TP combos might call again. Also, there might be severe reverse implied odds if I make my hand . So I clearly prefer checking back turn now.

River:
As played, the question is should I barrel river, to fold out Ad high combos or some weakish top pairs? Or should I just give up now? If I decide to bluff what would be a reasonable size?

Thank you for your opinion.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

First, I recommend removing the outcome of the hand next time or put it in a spoiler.
The BB looks a little bit fishy and I don’t think you can 3-barrel bluff against him and I would check it down after the flop lead and try to hit the flush or straight.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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eazyryder13
Joined: 23.07.2011

I agree the BB does look very fishy. BB has around 20% equity after the flop and even less after the turn. There maybe an argument for a bigger bet on the flop but I doubt you're getting him off this. When the BB calls a bigger bet on the flop you could maybe look at check/calling or check/folding

Cheers,
Dom


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sdf256
Joined: 21.07.2016

Well I think you can bet OTT here, but choose bigger sizing. After he calls my turn bet and I miss, I'd just check OTR.
Obviously you can only check OTT and take a free card in position, that is ofc a good play too.
The thing is if you bet OTT, you can still make him fold, you build up the pot in case you hit, and it's more likely that he will only check the river if he calls you, so you will be able to easily check behind if you miss. However if you check OTT, you risk less money, but all the advantages that I said above aren't here. He can try to bluff u out of the hand with a stab after u checked the turn (which isn't end of the world since you don't risk much money, so you can easily fold), but the pot is gonna be small if you actually hit OTR, so you will win less money too.
I would say that if you're willing to risk more to win big if u hit, then bet turn, if u don't want to risk, then check.


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CucumbaMan
Joined: 13.10.2017

That one is a tough cookie. I think I'd just check it down after the flop, and hope to hit on the river.


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lfcmichael
Joined: 30.10.2016

I can see the logic of the flop bet after two checks, but I think I’d check back the turn after villain calls. I’ve read that it’s usually more +EV to do so in position, because we need a lot of fold equity for betting to be better.


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MatoStar
Joined: 22.07.2017

Definitely fold preflop and you can easily avoid the problems like this.
But as played check OTF, we haven't enough fold equity, sometimes UTG may slowplay his nuts FD. Then if all the players would also check OTT, I would usually bet T and R as well.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We should fold preflop or 3b as a bluff. Just calling will lead us in more problematic situations and we will be dominated too.

As played, xb turn.


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