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juhiimi
Joined: 03.03.2009

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $6.07 (121.4 bb)
BB: $5.98 (119.6 bb)
MP: $5.51 (110.2 bb)
CO: $5.55 (111 bb)
BTN: $4.42 (88.4 bb) 79/7 H:30

Preflop: Hero is SB with J♦: A♠:
2 folds, BTN calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, BB folds, BTN calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.55) J♣: 2♥: 8♠: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, BTN calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.25) 9♠: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, BTN raises to $1.85, Hero calls $0.95

River: ($4.95) 5♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.97 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.97

What would you do OTT? I was not paying attentiont, that if i call im pretty much committed OTR, so would it be better to shove or to fold?
OTR because i block A high flushes, he can have some busted straight draws but i think thats too optimistic...


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

This is not a 3b pot. Villain limps, you raise him and he calls.
The turn raise is for value and I like the old Baluga theorem: fold everything below top 2P vs a turn raise.


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juhiimi
Joined: 03.03.2009

Yeah, sry edited out.

But you think even against this big fish on a drawy board always the best line is turn bet/fold? Ok prob with the As it is. But without it, he can have fd s and oesd s, two pairs and sets,and some idiotic bluffs.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

This passive fish limps preflop. Do you really think he has draws in his range ? I dont.

This is a made hand by the fish. Two pair + or mb he hit a gutshot on the turn. Easiest fold ever.

Even if you assign him few draws, those would be either monster or with a pair as well, giving you a coin flip.


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pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

Yep easy fold


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juhiimi
Joined: 03.03.2009

But why cant he have draws? He can have almost everything right?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

How many combos of draws he has and how many combos of better hands?


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pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

Originally posted by juhiimi
But why cant he have draws? He can have almost everything right?

Well than it should be an aggro player: but the villain limp calls pre, so he is, probably, not aggro enough to raise turn with just draws. He is the guy who gonna check call the whole way to try to hit his draws.


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LacsapR
Joined: 14.07.2011

I'd also fold ott. It's a common mistake to go broke with top pair... Most of the times not good vs these moves


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sdf256
Joined: 21.07.2016

Yes he looks like a big fish, but the most important thing you know about him is that he is a 79/7fish. It means that he is a type of a PASSIVE guy, so when he actually goes ahead and starts showing aggression you know he has a valuehand. I know you have only 30hands on him, but I think when someone has this big of a deviance in his stats, it can tell us something about him.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

Originally posted by juhiimi
But why cant he have draws? He can have almost everything right?

Yes, he can have anything but he does not raise anything. He raises better hands. With a draw such a passive guy would only call but would not raise


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juhiimi
Joined: 03.03.2009

Thx guys!


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

This hand is played almost perfectly.

That is if villain would be regular who plays close to GTO. But even then the turn play is close and I think it still should be folded. You would have so many better hands to call with and here having the As could also be bad. Now you block many of his bluff hands which makes his raising range stronger. And OTR it is quite the same thing, the bet is very small but I think you won't make much profit there by calling. Calling with some frequency to defend properly is probably correct.

But now to the important stuff.. As pointed out above, villain has HUGE vpip and very small PFR. And he limps. This tells us that he is super passive. Does he raise as a bluff? The answer is clearly no. I think the best move here is to just follow the Baluga theorem Nitrol mentioend above and fold vs a turn raise when you don't have 2 pairs or better.


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