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KJo SB vs BB 3bet

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iNeverHit
Joined: 21.07.2016

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $2 (100 bb)
BB: $2.06 (103 bb)
CO: $1.58 (79 bb)
BTN: $3.99 (199.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♣: J♥:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BB raises to $0.18, Hero raises to $0.36, BB calls $0.18

Flop: ($0.72) 9♠: 6♣: T♦: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.31, BB calls $0.31

Turn: ($1.34) 2♦: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.33 and is all-in, BB folds

Results:

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$1.34 pot ($0.05 rake)
Final Board: 9♠: 6♣: T♦: 2♦:
Hero mucked K♣: J♥: and won $1.29 ($0.62 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$0.67 net)

Villain: almost no info - 48 hands - 34/34/12% 3bet...sample too low to judge his playstyle but seems to be normal player not too fishy

These spots are really problematic for me...I'm not sure how to play in 4bet pots OOP after my bluff 4bet is called preflop.

I use KJo as a 4bet bluff SB vs BB and I get called. If I think about it he shouldn't have monsters like QQ+ and AKs if he choose to call 4bet. Some fishes call with them but it's not frequent. So I put him or something like this: JJ-TT, AQs-AJs, KQs, 98s, 87s, 76s, AKo

I decided to bet flop because he has a lot of air in his range on this flop and I can improve my hand on the turn. I bet small so I don't get pot commited plus I think he will fold his air weak draws and weak pairs anyway on this flop in 4bet spot. He calls...

On the turn I was thinking what to do and I knew he will only call me with his best hands like sets, JJ, or straights if I decide to shove. He will most like call with range like this: JJ, 87s, ThTs, ThTc, TsTc, 9d8d, 7d6d but I'm not sure if it's possible for him to hold TT, I think he would most likely reraise on the flop, not sure.

I can still represent monsters with my turn shove there while he shouldn't have them.

I know I'm pretty much fuc**d when he calls. I only have GS and overcards and not all would help me as he has flush draws and straight draws.

Anyway..I think he will only call like 1/3 of times - JJ,TT,8d9d,87s,6d5d...aaaand it's still -EV as I will loose 153bb 35% of times (he calls, my equity is 12% and pot would be 200bb roughly ) and win 67bb 65% of times (he folds) roughly...may be even worse. It's like -10bb EV in this hand for me (67x0.65-153x0.35) = (how much I win when he folds minus how much I lose when he calls)

I shall give up this hand on the flop right? There is probably no need to bluff here with this hand as I have better hands for bluffs in my 4bet range - Suited aces, suited kings, Q9s-QJs, AKs for example...I want to bluff there sometimes but probably not with this hand right? What would you recommend range wise?


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juhiimi
Joined: 03.03.2009

Preflop i would not bluff 4bet with this hand, i would go more with weaker suited Kx for ex.
Postflop his range is capped, i kinda like your play, you are blocking some of his stronger draws, and JJ combos. He can fold something like: 88,89s,AK,KQ, AQ, and he beats you with 99,TT. 87s shouldnt be in his call 4bet range, and mb sometimes he even fold jacks here on your shove OTT.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

Having bluff 4bet range at NL 2 is not recommendable.

They way you played it is fine as im sure you made him fold the better hand. Even if called - you have equity and mb at least 1 live overcard, so its ok.

On another note, this is one of the spots where if you get called and he wins this goes to the "spew" list. This time it worked out but you will see very often QQ, TT, JJ, slowplayed AA/KK or a random AT/A9/JT type of hand by a fishy player who didnt want to let it go preflop.

After all, 4betting KJo preflop is never a +ev decision in the long term at NL2


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