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Overbet shove river vs 2

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JanssenBatista
Joined: 04.11.2015

partypoker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 160.8 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 15.28, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 76)
SB: 105.2 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (BB): 101.8 BB
UTG: 111.2 BB (VPIP: 53.85, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
MP: 94.6 BB (VPIP: 68.42, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 19)
CO: 144.2 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♥ 8♥

fold, MP raises to 3.4 BB, fold, BTN calls 3.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.4 BB

Flop: (10.6 BB, 3 players) 2♠ 6♥ T♥
Hero checks, MP bets 10.2 BB, BTN calls 10.2 BB, Hero calls 10.2 BB

Turn: (41.2 BB, 3 players) 8♦
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

River: (41.2 BB, 3 players) T♣
Hero checks, MP bets 81 BB and is all-in

Spoiler

, fold, Hero calls 81 BB

Hero shows A♥ 8♥ (Two Pair, Tens and Eights)
(Pre 32%, Flop 48%, Turn 95%)
MP mucks J♠ A♦ (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 68%, Flop 52%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 193.2 BB


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CptJokerFish
Joined: 06.06.2017

Raise Flop.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Weird spot lol. I don't see a point with raising flop at all, way better to keep the nut FD in your check/calling range and to check/raise with lesser draws.

I'd fold river but I don't know what he can have. Ok who am I kidding, I'd probably call river because I'm too curious but I don't think it's right


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CptJokerFish
Joined: 06.06.2017

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
Weird spot lol. I don't see a point with raising flop at all, way better to keep the nut FD in your check/calling range and to check/raise with lesser draws.

I'd fold river but I don't know what he can have. Ok who am I kidding, I'd probably call river because I'm too curious but I don't think it's right

lol nit. Everyone play so nitty in todays games that so ridiculous.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by CptJokerFish
lol nit. Everyone play so nitty in todays games that so ridiculous.

Yeaaaah that's so me, the big nit playing something like 38-28-8,5 according to my last sample at NL5 !

Doesn't agree with me on one hand and instantly insult me instead of explaining anything about his so great playstyle ... stupid comment of the day, welcome ! :f_drink:


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sdf256
Joined: 21.07.2016

Why would he be a nit? I would fold in this spot too.

There are several reasons to fold IMO: 1. We dont beat any part of his valuebetting range. 2. He uses this bigger sizing preflop, pots the flop vs 2 players, then checks the turn and shoves the river vs 2 players.. to me it looks pretty strong. Actually b/x/b is often underbluffed and the sizings just amplified it.


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pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

Originally posted by sdf256
Why would he be a nit? I would fold in this spot too.

There are several reasons to fold IMO: 1. We dont beat any part of his valuebetting range. 2. He uses this bigger sizing preflop, pots the flop vs 2 players, then checks the turn and shoves the river vs 2 players.. to me it looks pretty strong. Actually b/x/b is often underbluffed and the sizings just amplified it.

Nice analysis


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Tonyx86
Joined: 28.03.2018

It's a nice bluff catch, but that happens once in a lifetime on NL5. Flop and turn is a x/c in a multiway pot. Since we missed our flush i would suggest not to go for the hero call. We block the nut FD, so he is unlikely having a missed FD as well... We only beat pure bluffs.


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Gr1ff1th
Joined: 24.09.2017

Partypoker population is super agro especially at fast forward even at NL5, sometimes i wonder if they are humans or bots.

But even so, i would fold because its mwp and villain can have a lot of Tx, and propably if he had a gutter or a FD he would double barrel normally instead of Bet/Check/Bet line.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

reasons for calling: it's a rec, and when recs take crazy lines, their bluffing frequency might be higher than what you expect.
i don't see many bluffing hands, and he can definitely still have Tx and maybe even some straights/fulls, and thus i'd still fold (reg reasoning of "oh he'd bet turn" doesn't fully apply)


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