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Nl16, 76o 3way oop, river bet fold?

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AvritJack
Joined: 28.12.2007

Bu (30h) / 25/14/af 0.8/33

I have idiot ended here on turn.
Flop: no one interested or slowplay. It's happening quite often on this kind of boards. I would bet, flop is connected, I could get value now.
Turn: blank. I decided to bet and see what will happen. Force to fold 6 outs or even more on me . I think bet is too small. One call.
River: decided to bet fold. Small. Maybe some scared pp, Pair with draw call me. Those hands will X back. Maybe better 2 pairs will fold? Not sure to this sizing. Maybe I'm trying to hard find value here and just x fold?


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

I don't like at all your river bet. Check and pray.


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SkokE
Joined: 24.11.2007

Fold preflop IMO, as played x


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AvritJack
Joined: 28.12.2007

If he plays like aggression stat says, check fold is the best. I know, small sample.
He wouldn't (most of time) bluff there.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by SkokE
Fold preflop IMO, as played x

It's also good to know why you would do this, but defending 76o is indeed marginal against 2 players out of position.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not like the river bet too.


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AvritJack
Joined: 28.12.2007

Originally posted by SDK1987

Originally posted by SkokE
Fold preflop IMO, as played x

It's also good to know why you would do this, but defending 76o is indeed marginal against 2 players out of position.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I called it because of 2 players. I wouldn't hu. Better po, I'm looking for str8 , draw there. Better implied odds with 2 players. Cbet flop matter, I can count for free cards etc. Only position sucks.


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Pokamon
Joined: 15.04.2006

you are supposed to defend 20% here, not 70%.

the presence of a third player is bad for you, not good.

you could consider calling 76o, when the BU opens and the SB flats, but you really have to respect UTGs range.


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AvritJack
Joined: 28.12.2007

Originally posted by Pokamon
you are supposed to defend 20% here, not 70%.

the presence of a third player is bad for you, not good.

you could consider calling 76o, when the BU opens and the SB flats, but you really have to respect UTGs range.

But why defend 20 percent?
Why third player is bad for me?

I respect utg range, like I said I'm aiming there for big hand, if they will have big pp my implied odds growing


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Frankly, it'll be hard to prove if it's a call pre or not and maybe even harder to prove if it's a better call HU or multiway (and when multiway against UTG or against CO etc). There are so complex pros and cons intertwining it's more or less unfathomable. Don't bother.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The most important thing is to know why you are calling and what to do postflop. If you call because of the good pot odds with the hope to hit a straight or strong draw than you should be ready to get rid of your hand if you do not hit good flop.
In your case when you are on "idiot" side of the draw, you should also take this into account.


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