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What i beat at river ?

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DrunkBet
Joined: 23.05.2018

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

opponents are regs.. It is right call river ?

BTN: 104.3 BB
SB: 118.2 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: 161.1 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 129.5 BB (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 186.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (CO): 180.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ K♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 7♦ 2♣ Q♠
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (20 BB, 3 players) K♣
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 11 BB, fold, Hero calls 11 BB

River: (42 BB, 2 players) J♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 24 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

BTN shows Q♦ K♦ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 52%, Flop 52%, Turn 50%)
Hero shows Q♣ K♠ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 48%, Flop 48%, Turn 50%)
BTN wins 43 BB
Hero wins 43 BB


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Why not just bet OTF. And why not raise OTT. I'm not sure if I get your thought process.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

I'm never folding OTR. And I'm never donkbetting OTR as played. But then again am I playing like that sometimes lol ?Why not x/c OTF but x/r OTT at least.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yea I can agree with the check call OTF but that turn definitely should be a raise.


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DrunkBet
Joined: 23.05.2018

I usually bet flop but sometimes check for balancing check folding range but it's probably a mistake .. and when he bet at turn I put him range smt like 77 KQ maybe AJ ATs 9Tcc JTs like bluff.. AQ and PP he probably checked at turn .. so I wanted play it like bluffcatch at river but river completed his bluffs AT 9T,, and AJ he mabye checked behind at river ..


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Basically I tend to check KJo and bet KQo OTF. KQo is strong enough (nobody should have AK) and vulnerable enough to want to bet right away whereas KJo is already more closish and interesting to trap with on a dry Kxx texture in my humble opinion.

OTR don't worry about his bluffs, he can have many others. A lot of regs autobet anything when you check with the initiative. Even in multibarrel here it's possible as the board gives him FE (at least he could think so).


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shooshte
Joined: 23.08.2018

Well to anwser the topic - you only beat his bluffs :f_biggrin:

Otherwise nh, I would call the river with this line as well


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by shooshte
Well to anwser the topic - you only beat his bluffs :f_biggrin:

And why is that that KJ and maybe even K7s are impossible here ? =)


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manelribeiro
Joined: 11.10.2010

Man, in micro limits the secret is just play for value. You MUST raise this KQo, it has so much value, you can´t limp that. Actually deep like that, I wouldnt open less than 5BB - 8 BB in yours position.


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shooshte
Joined: 23.08.2018

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY

Originally posted by shooshte
Well to anwser the topic - you only beat his bluffs :f_biggrin:

And why is that that KJ and maybe even K7s are impossible here ? =)

He says the oponnents are regs, and I do not think that regs cold call K7 and KJ, then triple barrel 1/2 BTN vs CO. I mean why cold-call KJo when you are gonna get 3-bet by SB or BB most of the time and end up folding anyway...


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

I wouldn't be so sure of what "regs" can or cannot do. People can look like regs for 300h and still do awful stuffs.


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shooshte
Joined: 23.08.2018

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
I wouldn't be so sure of what "regs" can or cannot do. People can look like regs for 300h and still do awful stuffs.

Yeah, that's a fair point. So let's just stop discussing ranges since it's pointless trying to predict villains at micros anyways, list everything that he can have that beats us, decide to call because he can have any two cards and move on?


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Well if you know so well how people are playing exactly I guess there is indeed no point in discussing poker any further with you... :truestory:
I thought it was a game with uncertainty but then again what do I know lol.


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shooshte
Joined: 23.08.2018

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
Well if you know so well how people are playing exactly I guess there is indeed no point in discussing poker any further with you... :truestory:
I thought it was a game with uncertainty but then again what do I know lol.

Read this back to yourself out loud please. Just pretend that I wrote it to you :f_biggrin:

I guess the bottom line is if the villain can have K7 and KJ then the river call is OK. I can't really think of any other hand that triple barrels here? And if he only shows up with KQ or better then calling is not profitable.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

So you can't even write anything relevant by yourself ? Well your case seem worse than I usually thought then
Don't worry I won't bother anymore with you. You can keep all your heavy assomptions about this game, and good luck with it.


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shooshte
Joined: 23.08.2018

Regs not cold-calling K7 BTN vs CO at NL10 is a not a heavy assumption...


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