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SB vs BB - KK vs assumed weak player

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Quasar18
Joined: 02.08.2010

IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $11.58 (115.8 bb)
BB: $9.04 (90.4 bb) 73/0 11 Hands
CO: $11 (110 bb)
BTN: $22.01 (220.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♦: K♣:
CO folds, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.90, BTN folds

Flop: ($2.30) T♣: 6♣: 8♦: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.84, BB calls $1.84

Turn: ($5.98) 5♣: (2 players)
Hero bets $8.74 and is all-in, BB calls $6.20 and is all-in

River: ($18.38) 3♥: (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $18.38 pot ($0.55 rake)
Final Board: T♣: 6♣: 8♦: 5♣: 3♥:
Hero mucked K♦: K♣: and lost (-$9.04 net)
BB showed 7♣: 8♣: and won $17.83 ($8.79 net)

Hi,

my opponent here seems fishy, so B/F is correct on the flop? What about the betsize?
On the turn was not sure - do I beat enough combos? Is the shove too scary for weak hands? although he just has a pot size stack left...


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

two streets plan seems fine.

flop: we're hardly folding many turn cards except for about a 9 or a 7. turns such as J and club aren't ideal, but we must live with it.
turn: even if we bet smaller on the flop, it's going to be very hard to fold with the redraw and check/calling the turn still leaves you pot commited on most sizings. might as well hope that he has some hand like Tx or 89, which he's also never folding.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

3bet bigger pre, especially if your opponent seems fishy, so that a 2 street plan will make even more sense.


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shooshte
Joined: 23.08.2018

3-bet bigger preflop vs fish - I would say about 12BB, they are going to call any way...

What I like to do in spots like these is to bet small OTF, then bet big OTT if the draws miss. That way you get a street of value from draws without feeling commited to the pot if the draw hits. Against fish though, your play is fine. They will call down here with small pocket pairs, middle pairs that connected with the board, top pair etc...yeah, sometimes they also have a full or a flush but I think the value is there.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by shooshte
What I like to do in spots like these is to bet small OTF, then bet big OTT if the draws miss.

You have to do pretty much the opposite though lol. It's a check or bet big flop texture (and thus check a lot and polarize your betting).


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shooshte
Joined: 23.08.2018

@MyFloxyBabY can you explain into more details, or just link a strategy article/video explaining this? Would be interesting to check my database for these spots and figure out how much money I am losing :f_biggrin:


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Well, I'd say Oblioo's "Advanced flop betting in 2017" for example or pretty much anything involving Snowie or a solver or a general talk about range advantage and equity distribution (not just raw equity) in 3bet pots should do the trick.

It's a spot where you can't bet recklessly as IP's range hit the board quite well and he's gonna be able to float easily so a small flop bet doesn't do the trick at all as it doesn't deny enough equity and allow him to play on his positional advantage way more than if we make it a 2 streets plan to shove.


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