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Tyradiel
Joined: 22.06.2013

Hi,

Some people might know me from before although I doubt it since I wasnt active on pokerstrategy for some while. I used to play holdem and jump from lot of variants but my biggest succes was with HU with my best month aroun 4,5k euro in winnings but on average it was more like 2k. Anyway I wasnt improving as much as I would like and started to stagnate plus the format wasnt really that for me as with regulars it was really hard to win against and against fishes it was always the same and it really became boring. Also the time management with HU was pretty bad for me so I decided to switch to PLO.

I´ve been playing PLO for some time now but what I have been missing was some drive to push myself and was still pretty lazy. I think I fixed that issue but into it some financial stuff came up so my bankroll isnt best with 625$ to go forward.

Anyway why have I decided to run a blog? Well mostly it is for self reflection I want to be able to look back and see if I do some stuff over and over which doesnt work or even worse makes me misurable. Anyway this might be blog for quite a while because as I said my bankroll is bit small and I need around 400$ monthly so either I start making it or I need to find myself a job which would mean end of poker for me aside palying it for fun occasionally.

Last session which I had with my coach Kazor (which I must recommend because he is really a great one) was really great and I think I realized a lot of important stuff and I fell like I am going to make it. My plan is to grind PLO25 and hopefully I can make at least those 400 and keep improving. I am not gonna move down no matter what I mean on PLO10 there is not really a chance to make that kind of money nor would I want to make so much hours for that kind of money. Either I bust or I improve and move on. If I wont be able to make it on 25 but will be around BE or missing a bit I jump to 50 and try my luck with variance there I guess but I will cross that bridge when I come to that.

I will be posting on weekly basis for now and we will see how it goes. I hope I will be able to grind around 60k hands this month but not sure yet as I plan to have one day probably Monday bit of a chill out to refresh myself and grind mostly 6 days per week.


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pizdunar
Joined: 01.08.2014

Good luck with your variance:) I already got a bit more motivation to play myself in Dec from reading this because I also get too lazy ofc. So keep it up man!


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Tyradiel
Joined: 22.06.2013

@pizdunar Thx I am glad it motivated you and yeah laziness is really big problem. I am big believer in being able to to anything as long as you are willing to do anything for it and all it comes to is determination and willingness to make sacrifices.

Since last time it is going fine. Result wise it is 170$ +87 in starcoins over 14k hands. Results are fine but I need to turn up the volume. I have some health problems and last 3 days I was trying to handle it and was in hospital going through bunch of tests and unfortunatelly they didnt find anything yet and next tests will take place on new year so hopefully it wont be unbearable till then and I will be able to push through it.

I was playing with a poker variance calculator and it is really funny how much of variance there is in PLO. I was kinda shocked that even with 4bb winrate there is chance to have 100Bis swings and quite bigger chance than I would like with my bankroll.

One other thing is that rake on these stakes is so huge it is really hard to have decent winrate and thus avoid the variance a bit. Ofc these things are the ones I cannot do anything about only way is to improve and put in bigger volume.


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deralte71
Joined: 09.08.2010

As a fellow PLO player, i look forward to follow yr quest. GL


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pizdunar
Joined: 01.08.2014

Sad to hear about your health. If I were you I'd make sure I am doing everything possible to get it back, at least for the things I can control as in nutrition, sleep, etc. Also I think if it comes to a point where you can not play poker anymore due to pain, tiredness etc. be careful not to fall in the self pitty/victim trap since it's so easy to go that route and so hard to come out of it. So if that happens I'd maybe still just on principle continue playing plo2 for example for hour per day in worst care or do some equity drills, or if you really can't do anything but lay in bed then you can still do mind work just like to show yourself you're pushing no matter what. Maybe check out Joe Rogan talks to Dominick Cruz about his injury streak video for some info/motivation.


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Tyradiel
Joined: 22.06.2013

@deralte71 Thx

@pizdunar Yeah something like that already happened to me in the past and sure sucked but this time it is not about selfpity or something like that but I just struglle with breathing problems especially in the afternoons and evenings whihc is my time to play so it kinda sucks. Anyway I am trying some stuff to make it better despite the doctors who dont know what is the problem at all.

This week was bit hard for me not only the problems with the breathing was really the worst so far but I also hit pretty huge down of almost 500$ and it might not be over yet. Over all I am 13 bucks in profit this month only thanks to rakeback. I will try to increase volume and hopefully I will be able to do something to at least ease my condition so I can focus more poker. I hope it is just temporary downswing and will turn it over soon as during review I only found few mistakes which I knew I made already behind tables because of getting frustrated. Still I knew there is big variance in PLO and I am not giving up yet stil have around 2 weeks to go and anything can happen.:f_thumbsup:


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deralte71
Joined: 09.08.2010

Hope yr luck will change, and you get the health problem sorted out


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Tyradiel
Joined: 22.06.2013

Hi guys,

Today I will have a break probably maybe a little session and enjoy holidays with family. Last week was challenging again. At start it was mostly because of health but last few days it got much better and now it is at level that only in evenings it gets little annoying but still can play at least. Together I palyed this month 33k so far and sadly after rakeback I am actually at zero.

It is really hard to say if I am running bad or I just suck because I still make mistakes (duh). Also I have dayys in which I make around 200 bucks or loose it and that makes still such a big difference on winrate. And although I think I am running bad because there is lot of spots in which I lost juts because of them calling really stupid hands and getting there on the river but I guess everybody feels like they are unlucky even if that is not the case.

One other thing is that I came up to some money on the other side but all of this is just making it that harder to decide what is the best course of action for me. On one hand I spent a lot of time on poker and it would be kinda waste to flush it down the toilet and find a job because I dont believe I would handle both or it would be extremely slow. On the other hand I dont want to burn all of that money I made on side. Will see how the month ends still 6 day and in PLO that might be totally different results.


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Tyradiel
Joined: 22.06.2013

Well last aprt of the month was the worse and I even ended up in slight loss of 140$. Anyway I got even some kind of flu and wasnt able to play few days now but had lot of time to thin and in the end I decided to continue for one more month. I really felt like I was running super bad and wasnt that far of making it and becuase tehre is so much variacne I want to give it good shot this time no matter what unelss I wont be close to making some decent money at teh end of month I will go higher stakes and gambel it through like I planned last month.

Wish me luck.


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deralte71
Joined: 09.08.2010

Have you considered getting yr play analyzed? Maybe by Kyyberi or somebody else. Could help You getting a fair assement off yr game and maybe close some holes in yr game. Just a thought. GL in 2019


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Tyradiel
Joined: 22.06.2013

@deralte71 Yes I agree with you completely and was one thing I was considering the whole time but problem is I have very small BR and the coaches I like are expensive. I was considering to ask kyyberi like you mentioned but after watching videos I think we have very different styles and although I believe he is very decent player and probably have really good adjustments for the small stakes I play right now, I think in the end it could do me some harm because I know myself and my biggest problem was always to change my style instead of polishing it and playing my way. One other thing was that I kinda persuaded my former coach to give me coaching at very low prize.

Hey guys sorry for not updating blog but for some time I was a pretty lazy grinder and didnt have really much to update except how angry I am at myself that I am not playing enough considering it could have been last month and all I shoudl have played doubel at least. Luckily in the end of month I found motivation again and work ethic to push through and this month finally I made it.

The sample is pretty small only around 21k hands this month but in the end my BR is 865$ after paying the coaching and some other stuff. From now on I wont decide whether to play next month based on porfit but I will base it on myself and how well I worked that month. I can get very lazy indeed and find many excuses not to play. Some reasons were legit and I believe if I pushed it on those days it would do more harm than good but there were many bullshit excuses as well which is unforgivable. So from now on I will focus more on volume and studying instead of results and in the end of the month I just withdraw money to cover my expenses and go on from there either move up in stakes or get busted. If I would be stack for long time I start shooting for higher stakes more aggressively but for now I want to take it easy and safe.

This month I want to play 23 days. 4 days I will have break a 1 day is a reserve for something unexpected. The goal for this month will be more of a volume which I set on 34k which is aroun 1,5k per playing day. In the end of month it really wont matter if I make this by playing those 23 days or 10 days of hardworking it or I play all of them. The result is now what matters to me but I believe it would be best for me to take some day as a break so I will try it the way I wrote above. The goal might seem as pretty low but after coaching my coach suggested I try out playing 4 tables instead of 6 and so far it seems to be working so I will continue doing so.

Second goal which I want to do this month is equity exercise and I would like to do 115 hands which is 5 per playing day.

And third goal which is not really that of a deal breaker is to work out 6 times. Again the number is pretty small but with my health issues etc I am really not sure if I even manage this but i will do my best and hopefully I will do it more than 6 times. I tried working out few days ago and honestly it wasnt much of a work out. I did warm up of my regular work out and then just took few exercises to cover whole body but very low amount and speed of doing it and then stretch for long time not to hurt myself. Well I didnt hurt myself but next 2 days my body was so sore like I would hit gym for 2 hours of strenght training so I need to take it this slow until my body adjust. Second thing is I must handle my diet a bit more and stop eating and drinking crap which is the thing I like to do when I am ahving a really bad day.

Ok guys gl to you behind tables unless you are sitting at mine :f_thumbsup:


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deralte71
Joined: 09.08.2010

GL with yr goals, remember February only has 28 days, so yr goals just got harder ;-)


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Tyradiel
Joined: 22.06.2013

@dderalte71 thx... Yeah I knew about it when I was creating it dont worry haha but still it will be hard because I am playing 4tables and maybe I overestimated myself a bit haha

Well start of the month is kinda rollercoaster so far. I startded climbing up really high so I coudl drop fast as hell hehe but luckilly still in the profit and also with decent WR but sample is very low ofc. I wanted to have mondays free but today I had to paly one session and analyze few hands to catch up the plan because yesterday my Grandma had a birthday and I spent there bit more time that I wanted.

I have also some doctors tomorrow and on 20th for some more tests as they found some irregularities but hopefully it will be nothing. Wanted to work out today but kinda got very lazy and didnt get to it so tomorrow I should push through and get some light work out in.

Goals for February

:diamond: Hands 4611/34 000
:spade: Equity exercise 15/115
:heart: Work outs 0/6


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deralte71
Joined: 09.08.2010

GL with the tests


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Tyradiel
Joined: 22.06.2013

@deralte71 Thx

Last week was just terrible. Two days I had problem with internet connection 1 day pokerstars was down for me Also whole week I was running really bad and had to take break last day beacuse I started to do mistakes because of it and it was contraproductive to play at that mindset. Worst was yesterday on which I wouldnt even stand form bed it was combination of health issues bad mood self pity etc.. Need to catch up now so hopefully I start running better again to make up for lost time and money.

Goals for February

:diamond: Hands 10 055/34 000
:spade: Equity exercise 45/115
:heart: Work outs 1/6


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deralte71
Joined: 09.08.2010

Hope things turn around both healthwise and pokerwise. Seems a good idea to take a timeout, when yr are running low in both


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Tyradiel
Joined: 22.06.2013

@deralte71 yeah I never know what to do honestly because I really admire those people who can work hard for their dreams but sometimes it feels contraproductive to push myself and when I take break I feel pretty bad next day for that

This week was pretty good but again I had problem with volume. One day again I just slept whole day because I had trouble breathing again so hopefully tomorrow at hospital they manage to help me somehow. Results were really good considering whole month I was running really bad and only 3 days helped me to get in profit. I will try to paly bit more this week and see how it goes. It is possible that I even start mixing some 50 tables in my sessions but that will depend on my volume and how I feel about my play

Goals for February

:diamond:Hands 15 919/35 000
:spade: Equity exercise60/115
:heart:work outs 2/6


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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

Hey Could u accept my friendrequest, i got some questions i want to ask you. or add me on skype varune1.


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Tyradiel
Joined: 22.06.2013

Hi,

today it will be just short post last month I didnt accomplish my goals by a lot because friend whom I didnt see for more than 2 years came up so I am spending lot o time with him and have less time for poker. He will be here for one more week so not gonna set goals just now because I really dont know what we gonna do....

So see you in week and few days


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