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(FR) QQ overpair vs turn raise

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

Questions below

$0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players

UTG+1: 182.6 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 29.55, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 46)
Hero (MP): 100 BB
MP+1: 128.4 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 3.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
MP+2: 66.4 BB (VPIP: 28.24, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
CO: 53.4 BB (VPIP: 30.38, PFR: 10.13, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 79)
BTN: 58 BB (VPIP: 32.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 50)
SB: 91.6 BB (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
BB: 170.8 BB (VPIP: 25.42, PFR: 13.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)
UTG: 153.4 BB (VPIP: 48.65, PFR: 18.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (12.4 BB, 4 players) 7♣ 4♦ 8♦
BB checks, Hero bets 9.2 BB, fold, CO calls 9.2 BB, fold

Turn: (30.8 BB, 2 players) T♣
Hero bets 15.4 BB, CO raises to 41.2 BB and is all-in, fold
Questions and thoughts:

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should I bet/shove, check/call or bet/fold here?

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CO wins 58.6 BB


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

If you bet turn you have to call a shove from the shortstack. He is commited for the river by calling your bet. I still believe you can call profitably.
You can check and see what he does, but when you check call turn or bet yourself you have to call either a turn shove or a river shove.


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flygo
Joined: 04.02.2019

fold.


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MLima1984
Joined: 19.05.2015

I agree with zeto.


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

You absolutely cannot fold OTT. I would check/shove the turn.
Ah and for me if a player has such a stak size he is 99.9% a fish. On 5NL midstakers especially the good ones are almost non existent. At least on 6-max, might be different
story FR, but I doubt it.


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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

Thanks, all.


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rimka75
Joined: 04.12.2008

i want to bet/call also vs a short stack.


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cms81
Joined: 24.04.2013

I think you could consider checking flop with it being multi way with the intention of betting turn as played i also agree in this situation you cannot fold turn...


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