These are the cliff notes on the entire situation.
Spin4play made a 3:1 prop bet that he could beat 20k $100 spin n gos on Stars for 2.5% ev roi before rake back. He was a mediocre reg before prop bet, seemed to be too good to be true, but miraculously beats the prop bet.
Turns out it was actually too good to be true, Stars bans him for allegedly using software which allowed him to see the "hidden" queue list on spin n' gos which he was using to select games that only contained recreational players/fish.
He scams $100k from people that bet against him and has had an endorsement and been a major stakeholder with a top poker stable "Spin Legends", which is the same owner as Pokerstrategy.com.
Hello,
PokerStars has become aware of a situation involving a violation of our Terms of Service, to the potential detriment of other players. You participated in games that were under consideration in this case and as a result you may have been adversely affected.
In a case such as this it is our policy to confiscate the balances of the offender(s) and for PokerStars to add funds where appropriate. This compensation pool is then distributed to players potentially affected in as fair a way as possible.
To confirm your credit, please log onto your PokerStars account, go to the 'Cashier' screen and click the 'History' button. Your share will be shown as "REFUND", followed by the amount of the credit.
The integrity of the games at PokerStars is of paramount importance and appropriate action will always be taken when players operate outside the Terms of Service. PokerStars works hard to police the games in order to pro-actively prevent such instances. However, in cases where it is discovered that rules breaches have occurred, the aim is to ensure that any players affected are compensated appropriately.
We regret that we will be unable to answer questions as to how your specific credit amount was calculated. Likewise, we are not at liberty to identify the specific games or player(s) in question. Suffice to say that the offender(s) have been barred from the site and you will not encounter them again.
Thank you for your continued play at PokerStars. Please let us know if we can help you with any further issues or questions.
Regards,
PokerStars Game Integrity Team
Statement by Poker Strategy
Dear all,
thanks for discussing this matter with us.
Firstly, we would like to assure you that we are actively looking into this situation. Already last week we have made a statement within SpinLegends stable clarifying matters from company perspective:
Quote:
Dear SpinLegends members,
You might have heard the allegations about SpinLegends founder Alvaro ‘spin4play’ Romero using a certain seating script (illegal software) during the 20k challenge in March/April 2016, which allegedly resulted in his PokerStars account being banned.
Whilst this is a personal matter of Alvaro, we want to share with you the view of SpinLegends as a company:
1. First and foremost, SpinLegends has always perceived any prohibited in-play support as totally unacceptable and we have been actively discouraging our players from using any seating scripts, any tools showing player queues, any botting or any other prohibited in-play support. We will continue to do so. Our mission is to encourage fair play and genuine player achievements.
2. Secondly, we currently can´t know for sure whether the allegations against Alvaro are based on some true merits or not, because these are personal account matters. We believe everybody is “innocent until proven guilty” and we will be monitoring the situation for now.
3. We checked the situation with Alvaro and Alvaro assured us that the allegations are not true. We never had a reason to doubt spin4play. We know he is a great player and a great coach. We are concerned with the allegations made on 2p2 and we will keep you posted, if there are any important developments.
4. For avoidance of doubt we started SpinLegends company together with Alvaro in December 2016. We were thrilled to work with Alvaro, whom we considered a genius strategic mind and one of the most talented Spin&Go players with a true dedication for helping others improve. Already back then in December 2016 we checked public data about Alvaro and noted that 20k challenge was done in a very transparent way where Alvaro was streaming all the time, shared complete hand histories and the 3rd party escrow respected 2p2 member evaluated Alvaro´s results as genuine. No concerns were noted by the 2p2 member verifying the results.
5. No matter the outcome of this situation, you can be sure that SpinLegends will continue providing you with great coaching materials, personal support and staking. We are constantly working on new promotions, coaching materials and improved staking team experience.
We have already made a statement about the whole situation on 2+2.
Team SpinLegends
Secondly, it is important to repeat that if the allegations against spin4play were true, it would have been an error on a personal level, not a company. SpinLegends have been always actively discouraging users from using any prohibited in-play support. If any SpinLegends user or coach used illegal software or cheated in any other way, it would be a major wrongdoing on their part and they would have to bear personal consequences.
Thirdly, we have removed spin4play challenge from marketing materials of SpinLegends. We are not going to promote a player who is banned on PokerStars. There are numerous other successes of SpinLegends users, elite coaches and proven strategies of SpinLegends that we will continue promoting and advertising. SpinLegends never needed any unfair help to achieve successes of its members.
At the moment there is no conclusive evidence that spin4play was cheating during the challenge. The OP in this thread posted a general PokerStars email explaining that spin4play is banned, but the PokerStars email does not provide any link to the challenge, neither does the PokerStars email provide any link to the 3rd party software. So can OP post real evidence that spin4play was using this software to back the allegations with data?
SpinLegends is committed to fair play and game integrity and will continue carefully monitoring this situation.
Kind regards
SpinLegends Team
Here is the banned software
This was just a quick google search. I can find more info if need be.
You asked who was cheating. His name was Alvaro Romero. Of course it was not just him. He was just the person who was banned.
Originally posted by NutshellD
Hello, as a former member (I'm NOT part of the staff) of SL, I'd like to clarify some things:
There is a lot of controversy around that stable.
Well, there was controversy back in the day, with the Alvaro's thing, after that... What? I think your argument "there's a LOT of controversy" is wrong.
Players were banned for using illegal software.
Could you provide solid evidence? I've been playing with SL months, and my account is in perfect shape.
The software gave them a huge edge.
Oh yeah, pokertracker is giving us a huge edge, because we're cappable of reviewing our own hands without doing anything illegal, good point.
They were cheating.
Who?
If the deal for spinlegends is 40k games at 50-50, that's a scam
Why? You're provided with coaching sessions, a solid community of Spin players that are actively helping each other, software, etc.
