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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Originally posted by Constantin11
And now I have my plan for poker as I go about these other things as well.
I will 3 table 60's to gather sample only 3 tabling and do my standard 2 table grind at 100's.

Please forgive my cluelessness: why don't you play 40s? Is it just because you want to push yourself out of the comfort zone or because they're saturated with regs and aren't much softer than 60s (not enough to compensate for the 2%* rake difference) despite the more attractive jackpot?

* My bad - I'd made a mistake when putting the probabilities into SwongSim; the rake is 7% at 40s, of course.


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

Oats? Eeeew! I live Paleo for health reasons (I have bipolar disorder type 2) and can recommand this diet to anyone. I do low carb Paleo.

Sorry to hear the bad news about your mom. :f_cry:


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Originally posted by Constantin11
And btw, what stands in your way right now? And why does it still stand there?

Coming back on the poker track, let me mention a mental game leak. Namely, I respect opponents too much and overestimate their rationality :f_ugly:

I've just had an opponent in a $1 spin who'd been playing noticeably weak-tight throughout the first 4 minutes, incl. postflop minbets, a min-3bet with QQ and a min-iso with AA, and then openshoved 2 buttons in a row for 7.67 bb. Given the observation, I had an easy exploitative fold with K2s to the 2nd shove (despite the capped nature of their range, it likely consisted of Ax and low-medium PPs only). Then, after a few more weak-tight hands, they openshoved for 13 bb, and I might have had an exploitative fold with A4o.

What happened was that I refused to believe that an opponent in their right mind would be so unbalanced, so predictable, so unadventurous at a poker format that was designed to appeal to risk seekers.

A former Russian community spin coach Moskvyak coined the term 'the mirror principle' for this cognitive distortion - the assumption that Villain has the same thought processes as Hero.

Why does it still stand? Maybe because of the history of being bullied at an all-star high school :f_ugly: where I had only a slight academic advantage over the classmates, unlike the previous one where the much less talented classmates didn't have the balls to bully me.


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pizdunar
Joined: 01.08.2014

omg tonypm do you sit in front of the computer all day and just comment lol? rhetorical question


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

No, I sometimes play poker too when I feel in shape :f_tongue:


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

Namely, I respect opponents too much and overestimate their rationality

I use to overestimate their rationality. HOW MANY times I made a light defense at the bubble, thinking that´s it´s really common sense to call tight in this spot, so I resteal, or a light jam. I thought "my goodness - it´s common sense that you must call very tight in this bubble spot"

I overestimated fold equity :facepalm:. What happened? Villain made a "very brave" call (means: totally super -EV) and won. :facepalm:


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Constantin11
Joined: 16.08.2012

Originally posted by Primrose6789
Oats? Eeeew! I live Paleo for health reasons (I have bipolar disorder type 2) and can recommand this diet to anyone. I do low carb Paleo.

Sorry to hear the bad news about your mom. :f_cry:

Thanks, Prim.
Mine looks Paleo-ish as well. Except the grain part and probably the dairy I plan to use as a probiotics source.
Honestly, it doesn't even matter to me at this point under what definition what I do falls as long as it's ok. And by sticking to it I'm giving up processed foods, sugar, artificial sweeteners, vegetable oils, trans fats and so on which is already a big step in the right direction.

Plus even nutritionists aren't on the same page regarding so many things. Some swear a vegan diet is the only way to go. Others advocate for a keto diet. Some focus on protein. To some Eggs raise cholesterol and then boom new research says it actually doesn't and so on. They just love making things difficult for us simple folk.

Originally posted by tonypmm

Originally posted by Constantin11
And now I have my plan for poker as I go about these other things as well.
I will 3 table 60's to gather sample only 3 tabling and do my standard 2 table grind at 100's.

Please forgive my cluelessness: why don't you play 40s? Is it just because you want to push yourself out of the comfort zone or because they're saturated with regs and aren't much softer than 60s (not enough to compensate for the 1.85% rake difference) despite the more attractive jackpot?

I thought the rake is 7%. But even if it's 1.85% higher only, doesn't change much. They are sh!t as far as I'm concerned. The jackpot doesn't look more attractive to me - 3 mill with 1:20.000.000 probability is a joke. At 60's if the probability of the highest multiplier was the same then you'd have a $12.000.000 Jackpot.
I never looked at them beyond their horrible jackpot. I didn't do the exact math but just looking at them it seems like higher variance, so I wouldn't be surprised if people that grind them have a higher probability of running bellow EV for a long time. So it doesn't look like it's worth it. Paying 2% more rake. playing for a lower BI, facing higher variance and so on.
Going from 30's to 40's though might be worth it, but again I'm not so sure about that as they could be so much more high variance compared to the usual stakes. So probably not. I played one though to see if I get that 3 mill . Didn't get it to my surprise.

Originally posted by tonypmm
Coming back on the poker track, let me mention a mental game leak. Namely, I respect opponents too much and overestimate their rationality :f_ugly:

Now regarding this. Well, knowing the "What" and "Why" seems like a good start for figuring out the "How". I'd definitely work on it.

But in general, I wouldn't take opponents from the low stakes too seriously. I remember even before starting studying intensely with Spin Legends that I was 12 tabling on Bet365 everything from Nl5 to Nl20 without even thinking about what I was doing with 11bb/100. I honestly didn't even care If I made bad folds or calls and so on. It was a "whatever" type of play and I was still printing money. That's how bad the opponents were. And It's a good idea to think about you in a similar way. If you struggle with a low stake it's better to take the full blame, which would imply that you have a lot of leaks that can be worked on, instead of saying that variation is really unfair with you and instead of being open to change and looking for ways to improve, you are doing the same mistakes over and over again.

Willingness to admit at every point in your life that you are stupid is the most powerful weapon for growth. Just look at me. I reached 100's and I'm still so stupid in so many places. Just imagine what more I could be doing by becoming a bit more intelligent... And with that attitude I'm more prone to actually do so instead of thinking how good and perfect I am.
But I'd be careful here. For example, Sure I am bad, which enables me to always work on myself, but my opponents are even worse lol

On a similar note, I have a really cool excerpt from a lecture from a course I studied this month that I could post here if anyone is interesting, It says something similar; & it resonated very well with me so I made a note for later use.


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

Mine looks Paleo-ish as well. Except the grain part and probably the dairy I plan to use as a probiotics source.
Honestly, it doesn't even matter to me at this point under what definition what I do falls as long as it's ok. And by sticking to it I'm giving up processed foods, sugar, artificial sweeteners, vegetable oils, trans fats and so on which is already a big step in the right direction.

This is actually our natural diet. The nutrition our body was built for. We are not built to digest sugar or some industry-poop-food! We are made to eat natural foods. Your body will give you signals what it needs. Cravings have all certain meanings and are signs that your body is lacking something: energy, protein, water,, whatever ..... just many people have lost the skill to listen to their natural appetite which tells them what is right for them. _smile: By listening to your body and eating natural foods you will reach maximum health - and maximum fitness! _thumbsup:

Plus even nutritionists aren't on the same page regarding so many things. Some swear a vegan diet is the only way to go.

...well, yes, it depends who is paying them :sifflote:


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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by Primrose6789

Plus even nutritionists aren't on the same page regarding so many things. Some swear a vegan diet is the only way to go.

...well, yes, it depends who is paying them :sifflote:
I'm willing to bet that any nutritionist who insists that veganism is the only way to go is heavily influenced by their own political/social views, no matter who they got their funding from. Sadly, this kind of bias doesn't seem to be that uncommon among scientists in general. They are just human, after all.

Other than that, I doubt there is a single "right" approach to nutrition, just some important DOs and DON'Ts, so it's not surprising to me that there are many different philosophies about it. But as Prim said, I believe listening to your own body is generally a good idea.

Either way, a healthy diet is pretty pointless without a healthy lifestyle, which is why I have always preferred to focus on other areas first.


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Originally posted by Constantin11
If you struggle with a low stake it's better to take the full blame, which would imply that you have a lot of leaks that can be worked on, instead of saying that variation is really unfair with you and instead of being open to change and looking for ways to improve, you are doing the same mistakes over and over again.

I agree that I'm full of leaks, but come on, 1s should be beatable with little effort, without solvers, just with PT4 reviews, the ample Russian community video library and a 4-year-old course that I own. I'll buy GTO+ only after I beat 1s so that I don't suck at 5s. InstaGTO is an overkill for 5s imo, should be only used for 15s+ (mostly for spots vs regs), but I don't see myself playing $15+ 3-max games, as I prefer Spin & Go Max at those stakes, where the rake is low enough (5.5-7%).

That said, it's indeed true that I'm salty at the fact that life in general has turned out harder than I imagined.


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

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I'm willing to bet that any nutritionist who insists that veganism is the only way to go is heavily influenced by their own political/social views, no matter who they got their funding from. Sadly, this kind of bias doesn't seem to be that uncommon among scientists in general. They are just human, after all.

Other than that, I doubt there is a single "right" approach to nutrition, just some important DOs and DON'Ts, so it's not surprising to me that there are many different philosophies about it. But as Prim said, I believe listening to your own body is generally a good idea.

Either way, a healthy diet is pretty pointless without a healthy lifestyle, .....

THIS!


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Originally posted by Primrose6789

Namely, I respect opponents too much and overestimate their rationality

I use to overestimate their rationality. HOW MANY times I made a light defense at the bubble, thinking that´s it´s really common sense to call tight in this spot, so I resteal, or a light jam. I thought "my goodness - it´s common sense that you must call very tight in this bubble spot"

I overestimated fold equity :facepalm:. What happened? Villain made a "very brave" call (means: totally super -EV)

Sorry for the derailment, but the way the bubble once burst in a freeroll of mine is so fitting :f_biggrin: The avg stack was 200K, the 2nd smallest stack was 55K, the smallest stack was the 17K on my table, and still, here's what happened:

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partypoker - 4000/8000 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 215,861 (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 23)
UTG+1: 16,920 (VPIP: 4.35, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
MP: 180,322 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
CO: 72,007 (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (BTN): 206,392
SB: 191,882 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
BB: 225,073 (VPIP: 52.17, PFR: 45.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)

7 players post ante of 1,000, SB posts SB 4,000, BB posts BB 8,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 19,000) Hero has A♦ Q♦

fold, fold, MP raises to 16,000, fold, Hero raises to 205,392 and is all-in, fold, fold, MP calls 163,322 and is all-in

Flop: (377,644, 2 players) 4♣ K♦ T♠

Turn: (377,644, 2 players) K♣

River: (377,644, 2 players) J♠

MP shows Q♥ K♥ (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 29%, Flop 69%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows A♦ Q♦ (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 71%, Flop 31%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins 26,070
Hero wins 377,644

What was Villain thinking? :f_confused:


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

They don´t think about strategy. They see their hand and think it´s pretty and "fall in love with it". Q♥ K♥ looks good, broadway, suited, so it must be the nuts and must be a great winning hand. So, their hand is pretty and they wanna take you out with it. As simple as that.


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

Originally posted by tonypmm
I'll buy GTO+ only after I beat 1s so that I don't suck at 5s.

The price of GTO+ is, however, not an excuse for not studying HU turn and river and 3-way river equilibria with freemium tools (Simple Postflop, Simple 3-Way) :fouet:


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Constantin11
Joined: 16.08.2012
This sums up perfectly how I felt this month.

It's ironic, I was getting murdered at the beginning of this month on all fronts. And I was like yeah, pain, I feel you, I need you, give me more, I dare you, give me more. And well, long story short, my prayer was heard and I caught a streak of 11 really bad days at the tables after that lol.

I'm annoyed with myself and proud at the same time. It was a really good month and a horrendous one.
It's the 2nd best one of this year and the only reason it's 2nd after April is because of the variation messing up my everything even outside poker. WHICH IS 100% MY FAULT.

Gotta admit that I'm feeling entitlement for some run good after all this. But you know what? Give me one more of this one. Make it real painful. It already felt unbearable at certain points, and I kinda don't want it, but I dare you to push me more. I need to become a fvckin beast so give me more. Fuel my growth with pain, make me fight really hard if I want to make the next month the best one that I had so far, otherwise it would be just too easy.

Besides poker, made good progress overall and actually managed to sustain 5 new habits in one month.
But tHe rEseArCh sAys tHaT yOu sHoUld tAckLe one hAbiT at a tiMe and bla bla bla. Fvck your research. And fvck you. I'm in War Mode. So let's fight for every inch of it with every breath that we take.

No Excuses!


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Constantin11
Joined: 16.08.2012

Hey. I've made it to both leaderboards.

Finally a promo that is worth something. Now all I gotta do is run like a God for as long as it lasts and bink $10k or smth :D


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Constantin11
Joined: 16.08.2012

Good news.
Looks like the generous poker God heard me and blessed me with what I requested.

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This is probably the fastest stretch in which I lost 30 Bi's lol. But I'm rolled for 100's so no biggie. Definitely interesting times. I am unmotivated and don't really wanna play. Kinda sick of this game right now.
A break of a few days will solve most of my problems. But you know what? There will be none. We gonna push through it as long as we don't start spewing money and tilting, we play 0,25c if we need to but we don't stop.
This is what I asked for, so might as well get the most of it lol.

This is a good way to practice and taste the unfairness of life. But on easy mode considering that as I write this some guy randomly gets killed in an accident while another one gets a terminal illness or some sh!t.
So my downswing doesn't sound so bad xD. I'm just gonna go watch a movie in my home cinema and blame your god for how unfair life is while never having to work a day in my life lol and having no health problems. (Yet :D).

So let's be sad bois for now.

Soon anger will fuel us to kill this month.


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Constantin11
Joined: 16.08.2012

What a cool day.

I'm on around 40 days of my new workout & nutrition regime and it's pretty hard but I am able to sustain it and already put some mass.
Today though it was leg day and leg days are always killing me the most for some reason. After 3/4 of my routine I was wasted af and took a few minutes of break to regain my breath, In that time I was still feeling like I was at my limit and started to gradually feel even worse until I did throw up. At that point I was feeling like complete sh!t. Didn't feel like this in years.

But that's not the point. What's interesting is what I though during that time that I was feeling like I was dying. I just lied on the floor remembering that this is the safest position (u don't fight gravity as much this way) and just thought about how I don't wanna feel like this ever again. Why would I do this to myself I though. And as long as I exercise there is always a chance, no matter how slim, to go through this unpleasant experience again. So I should probably quit, I said to myself, and this will definitely not happen again, or at least not for the same reason. At least I should quit for a few days starting with this second I thought. And as soon as I thought that and recognized my weakness in the face of adversity it infuriated me so much that I just decided to get up and finish my workout even if it kills me. And so I did, and even managed not to puke again and die in the process lol.

If that's not crushing then I don't know what is.

This is an embarrassing experience but I'll leave it here as a remainder to my future self.

Let's Crush. No Excuses.


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pizdunar
Joined: 01.08.2014

Great work dude. Every inch counts. Here's one foryou:

GL


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

Originally posted by Constantin11
I'm on around 40 days of my new workout & nutrition regime and it's pretty hard but I am able to sustain it and already put some mass.
Today though it was leg day and leg days are always killing me the most for some reason. After 3/4 of my routine I was wasted af and took a few minutes of break to regain my breath, In that time I was still feeling like I was at my limit and started to gradually feel even worse until I did throw up. At that point I was feeling like complete sh!t. Didn't feel like this in years.

But that's not the point. What's interesting is what I though during that time that I was feeling like I was dying. I just lied on the floor remembering that this is the safest position (u don't fight gravity as much this way) and just thought about how I don't wanna feel like this ever again. Why would I do this to myself I though. And as long as I exercise there is always a chance, no matter how slim, to go through this unpleasant experience again. So I should probably quit, I said to myself, and this will definitely not happen again, or at least not for the same reason. At least I should quit for a few days starting with this second I thought. And as soon as I thought that and recognized my weakness in the face of adversity it infuriated me so much that I just decided to get up and finish my workout even if it kills me. And so I did, and even managed not to puke again and die in the process lol.

If that's not crushing then I don't know what is.

This is an embarrassing experience but I'll leave it here as a remainder to my future self.

Let's Crush. No Excuses.

Yeah, let´s crush, but maybe not yourself? :f_o: Not the healthiest thing you did to yourself! :f_cry: You know, sometimes less is more .... :f_thumbsup:


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