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aloofkid
Joined: 09.06.2009

Hi everyone, just got a question which I think I know the obvious answer is fold. We were at 230 out of 170 ITM and I've dealt with JJ. My dilemma was players are tanking. I only have 8BB and BTN seems to steal frequently in that position. So my question is, do you call or fold?

PokerStars - 500/1000 Ante 125 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 7.24 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 20)
UTG+1: 13.41 BB (VPIP: 10.94, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 64)
MP: 21.58 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 5.32, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 95)
MP+1: 16.03 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP+2: 12.29 BB (VPIP: 8.70, PFR: 4.44, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
CO: 22.52 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
BTN: 12.89 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
Hero (SB): 8.37 BB
BB: 37.78 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.62 BB) Hero has J♣ J♠

Spoiler

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 12.77 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 7.75 BB and is all-in, fold

Flop: (18.62 BB, 2 players) 7♣ 9♥ K♦

Turn: (18.62 BB, 2 players) 6♣

River: (18.62 BB, 2 players) Q♣

Hero shows J♣ J♠ (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 69%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows 8♣ K♣ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 31%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins 18.62 BB


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Umm why do you think this should be fold?


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aloofkid
Joined: 09.06.2009

Originally posted by ghaleon
Umm why do you think this should be fold?

ICM aside, because we could just wait for the money to secure the minimum winnings? We're looking at 50 people to bust out, I'm playing $.50 MTT which prolly take around 10-20 mins. With my 8BB and the way they tank their turns I might get through it. =P


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lanoe
Joined: 06.01.2008

You play to win, not to min cash.
Never fold in that spot.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Playing to win is basically leak in MTT (if it means playing for cEV always) but yeah ICM is not that big concern around bubbles. Especially as you are still decently far from it. I could only think about folding JJ here if this was actually satellite and my assumption of cashing by folding everything was really high. In any normal mtt this is spot to play close to cEV and JJ is absolute monster hand.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I have moved your hand in to our hand discussion board.
Not sure why you use a spoiler like this. Now you need to look to give feedback on this hand.

Only with a high ICM factor I would consider folding JJ and that's only the case in a satellite most of the time.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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