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"Si debis pedere, pedis superbe. (If you must fart, fart proudly)" VorpalF2F
in today's episode of reg chat adventures:
PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 107.63 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 13.31, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 510)
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 120.19 BB (VPIP: 23.45, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.16, Hands: 1,659)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.16, PFR: 20.55, 3Bet Preflop: 10.14, Hands: 753)
MP: 105.19 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 261.69 BB (VPIP: 24.77, PFR: 20.40, 3Bet Preflop: 11.44, Hands: 658)
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9♦ 8♦
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9.5 BB, fold, CO calls 7 BB
Flop: (20 BB, 2 players) 5♠ 9♥ K♦
Hero bets 5.75 BB, CO calls 5.75 BB
Turn: (31.5 BB, 2 players) K♣
Hero checks, CO bets 15.06 BB, Hero calls 15.06 BB
River: (61.63 BB, 2 players) 4♦
Hero checks, CO checks
Hero shows 9♦ 8♦ (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
(Pre 43%, Flop 77%, Turn 89%)
CO mucks 5♦ A♦ (Two Pair, Kings and Fives)
(Pre 57%, Flop 23%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 58.88 BB
which lead to this in another hand:
Villain said, "what a moron"
Villain said, "cbet 50% 98"
Villain said, "loooooooooool"
Hero said, "someone is tilted"
Hero said, "not me..."
Hero said, "sorry i misclicked"
i didn't actually misclick, nor do i think the hand was very well played. but sometimes this is just the way that things go
as long time readers know, i have never ran bad in my entire life.
this month, however, was not very good... it's funny that this happened as i decided that i wanted august to be a higher volume month, and also that winrate was higher on NL25 than on NL16.
i won't bore you with the gory details, but they were gory.
i think i played as usual for the most part, but sometimes you just don't win. still got a solid yearly graph and past results, so i'm not worried that i suddenly became a breakeven player.
that said, a month like this does push you to improve your game. i'm going to push some adjustments... probably going to play less hands this month, though.
the other thing that jumps out is the rake.
maybe play somewhere else? move up (finally)? i don't quite trust partypoker, but there are other options.
thanks ♦
time to PRINT
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 82.88 BB (VPIP: 26.53, PFR: 8.16, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 100)
SB: 91.92 BB (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 20)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 14.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 99)
UTG: 194.84 BB (VPIP: 18.85, PFR: 14.94, 3Bet Preflop: 4.46, Hands: 606)
Hero (MP): 103.56 BB
CO: 102.72 BB (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 19.54, 3Bet Preflop: 10.77, Hands: 176)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♦ K♥
fold, Hero raises to 2.8 BB, CO raises to 9 BB, BTN calls 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 27 BB, CO calls 18 BB, BTN calls 18 BB
Flop: (82.4 BB, 3 players) 6♥ 9♠ T♣
Hero bets 76.56 BB and is all-in, fold, BTN calls 55.88 BB and is all-in
Turn: (194.16 BB, 2 players) 6♣
River: (194.16 BB, 2 players) 3♣
Hero shows K♦ K♥ (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)
(Pre 86%, Flop 79%, Turn 73%)
BTN shows K♣ Q♣ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 14%, Flop 21%, Turn 27%)
BTN wins 186.16 BB
nevermind
it's well known that no reg bluffs for stacks in micros
PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 235.25 BB
SB: 74.44 BB (VPIP: 28.33, PFR: 11.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)
BB: 78.13 BB (VPIP: 12.24, PFR: 2.04, 3Bet Preflop: 1.19, Hands: 197)
UTG: 107.06 BB (VPIP: 16.42, PFR: 13.05, 3Bet Preflop: 4.71, Hands: 3,176)
MP: 125.25 BB (VPIP: 20.51, PFR: 14.43, 3Bet Preflop: 4.96, Hands: 997)
CO: 151.25 BB (VPIP: 19.17, PFR: 15.99, 3Bet Preflop: 6.27, Hands: 1,782)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ K♠
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 8.19 BB, fold, fold, MP raises to 18 BB, Hero calls 9.81 BB
Flop: (37.5 BB, 2 players) K♥ 8♦ 2♣
MP bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB
Turn: (73.5 BB, 2 players) 4♣
MP bets 31 BB, Hero calls 31 BB
River: (135.5 BB, 2 players) 5♣
MP bets 58.25 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 58.25 BB
MP shows 7♠ 8♠ (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 36%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows A♠ K♠ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 64%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins 242.63 BB
local reg gets OWNED by strange line
PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 105.5 BB
SB: 192 BB (VPIP: 19.63, PFR: 16.56, 3Bet Preflop: 8.97, Hands: 823)
BB: 77.31 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.60, PFR: 15.05, 3Bet Preflop: 7.01, Hands: 750)
MP: 391 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
CO: 261.06 BB (VPIP: 19.57, PFR: 15.22, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 46)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♣ A♥
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.75 BB, Hero raises to 8.19 BB, fold, BB calls 7.19 BB, CO calls 5.44 BB
Flop: (25.06 BB, 3 players) 4♠ K♦ A♣
BB bets 24 BB, fold, Hero calls 24 BB
Turn: (73.06 BB, 2 players) K♣
BB checks, Hero checks
River: (73.06 BB, 2 players) 9♥
BB bets 45.13 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 45.13 BB
BB shows K♥ 3♠ (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 34%, Flop 20%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows J♣ A♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 66%, Flop 80%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 155.94 BB
overbet jam outs
PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 247.19 BB (VPIP: 61.76, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 34)
SB: 226.5 BB (VPIP: 30.72, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 1.41, Hands: 167)
BB: 103.75 BB (VPIP: 25.23, PFR: 21.48, 3Bet Preflop: 10.36, Hands: 768)
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 94.5 BB (VPIP: 24.60, PFR: 18.94, 3Bet Preflop: 8.64, Hands: 884)
CO: 87.13 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♠ 9♠
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) K♥ 4♠ 5♠
BB checks, Hero bets 4.56 BB, BB calls 4.56 BB
Turn: (15.63 BB, 2 players) K♦
BB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, BB calls 10 BB
River: (35.63 BB, 2 players) A♣
BB checks, Hero bets 82.44 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 34 BB
maybe less was more, but i couldn't resist this particular card. pretty sure many regs are folding entire range here, and they probably should do so against the population, to be honest
Originally posted by Tomaloc
pretty sure many regs are folding entire range here, and they probably should do so against the population, to be honest
Do they fold 44-55 here ? Or KT-KQ ?
Originally posted by toateslafel
Originally posted by Tomaloc
pretty sure many regs are folding entire range here, and they probably should do so against the population, to be honestDo they fold 44-55 here ? Or KT-KQ ?
i knew that question was coming lol. of course, you can find reasons to call, specially theoretical ones.
in practice, sets are slightly discounted due to no raise on the flop, and even when he does have them, it's obvious that i am representing a value range of AK+ (55 is also fine imo), so a thinking player realizes that their entire range is a bluffcatcher, and 2x pot overbet jams tend to be the nuts in these stakes.
so, if you go from that point to "they're never bluffing", then you end up folding your entire range.
i'm using an overbet range against this guy because i give him credit for being decent, and if he thinks for a bit and calls with Kx that's fine, i'll be using a reasonable overbet range. if you know someone has bad reg tendencies and might just "Kx snapcall rofl" then obviously we don't overbet bluff them.
transitioning to redline pro?
i do not expect to truly have a positive redline, but i have made some adjustments which i believe that should result in a profitable blue line for red line trade in the long term.
we'll see, i'm too lazy to post hands now
villain is probably the best reg in the pool, i'm not sure what villain is doing playing this limit. the same thing as me, probably.
i have to review this, i didn't play it correctly for sure. i'm not saying that i obviously should have called or (god forbid) that the river should be checked, but my strategy has holes here - i should think the ranges for each sizing through...
PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 139.56 BB
SB: 110.19 BB (VPIP: 17.47, PFR: 13.81, 3Bet Preflop: 5.91, Hands: 5,052)
BB: 110.06 BB (VPIP: 23.37, PFR: 19.66, 3Bet Preflop: 10.31, Hands: 6,009)
UTG: 45.88 BB (VPIP: 26.76, PFR: 18.62, 3Bet Preflop: 6.31, Hands: 1,298)
MP: 106.56 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: 168.06 BB (VPIP: 18.01, PFR: 14.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.01, Hands: 928)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3♣ 3♠
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.06 BB, fold, BB calls 1.06 BB
Flop: (4.63 BB, 2 players) 3♦ 4♠ T♦
BB checks, Hero bets 3.31 BB, BB calls 3.31 BB
Turn: (11.25 BB, 2 players) 8♥
BB checks, Hero bets 7.94 BB, BB calls 7.94 BB
River: (27.13 BB, 2 players) 9♦
BB checks, Hero bets 14.5 BB, BB raises to 96.75 BB and is all-in, fold
BB wins 53.63 BB
Originally posted by Tomaloc
transitioning to redline pro?
i do not expect to truly have a positive redline, but i have made some adjustments which i believe that should result in a profitable blue line for red line trade in the long term.
we'll see, i'm too lazy to post hands now
Red Line up is the difference for bad player to good player. A player with only blue up does not mean that he is a good player, it means that he is playing nit and not exploring the filed and having an even bigger winrate. Improve your pre flop lines, attack more than you defend and you will succeed in that.
(I saw it in a RIO video) 
Originally posted by Tomaloc
villain is probably the best reg in the pool, i'm not sure what villain is doing playing this limit. the same thing as me, probably.
i have to review this, i didn't play it correctly for sure. i'm not saying that i obviously should have called or (god forbid) that the river should be checked, but my strategy has holes here - i should think the ranges for each sizing through...PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4Hero (BTN): 139.56 BB
SB: 110.19 BB (VPIP: 17.47, PFR: 13.81, 3Bet Preflop: 5.91, Hands: 5,052)
BB: 110.06 BB (VPIP: 23.37, PFR: 19.66, 3Bet Preflop: 10.31, Hands: 6,009)
UTG: 45.88 BB (VPIP: 26.76, PFR: 18.62, 3Bet Preflop: 6.31, Hands: 1,298)
MP: 106.56 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: 168.06 BB (VPIP: 18.01, PFR: 14.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.01, Hands: 928)SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3♣ 3♠
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.06 BB, fold, BB calls 1.06 BB
Flop: (4.63 BB, 2 players) 3♦ 4♠ T♦
BB checks, Hero bets 3.31 BB, BB calls 3.31 BBTurn: (11.25 BB, 2 players) 8♥
BB checks, Hero bets 7.94 BB, BB calls 7.94 BBRiver: (27.13 BB, 2 players) 9♦
BB checks, Hero bets 14.5 BB, BB raises to 96.75 BB and is all-in, foldBB wins 53.63 BB
I like bet turn 15BB around. As played, river is check by theory. In this case, i fold also.
hey, thanks for visiting ♦
Originally posted by Orochimaro
Red Line up is the difference for bad player to good player. A player with only blue up does not mean that he is a good player, it means that he is playing nit and not exploring the filed and having an even bigger winrate. Improve your pre flop lines, attack more than you defend and you will succeed in that.
(I saw it in a RIO video)
improving red line always comes at some cost to the blue line.
that said, i do believe it's possible to have a decent redline at micros - it's not only about good aggression, but also about knowing when to give up and not burn chips (check/folding later is costly, and spewing your stack off is even more costly).Originally posted by Orochimaro
I like bet turn 15BB around. As played, river is check by theory. In this case, i fold also.overbetting turn is a good idea indeed, but i'm not familiar enough with overbets to add a lot of them to my game yet.
in general, it seems to me that the population calls overbets a bit too much, and i should probably exploitatively just overbet my lower sets against the population (this assumption could be completely wrong).i probably still wouldn't want to fuck around with the top reg in the pool without a decently thought out overbetting strategy, but i hadn't even considered overbetting here, which is a mistake.
in other news - this month has been low volume (as predicted) and good (couldn't predict).
i've also been moving some volume to other sites, including a certain site ran by a certain old school high stakes legend who named his Full Tilt account after a certain Clayton Holmes Aiken.
it's actually better than i expected, but the lack of fast fold is a major turnoff. i'll probably make it my second site (after pokerstars), though.
Calling stations and maniacs have always positive red line! I that make them a good players?
The most important thing after all is where your green line is! I doesn't care to lose a bit from red line with 58% W$SD for a big simple and all best analyzing software doesn't show me any major or important leaks 
About over bets OTT you should do it with draws and monsters vs the correct players on wet boards and the same OTR;)
If the field calls more overbets then it's good to use more overbets with the top of the range, isn't it? Let´s play with Piosolver a little bit about it.
Originally posted by vengeance77
Calling stations and maniacs have always positive red line! I that make them a good players?
The most important thing after all is where your green line is! I doesn't care to lose a bit from red line with 58% W$SD for a big simple and all best analyzing software doesn't show me any major or important leaks
About over bets OTT you should do it with draws and monsters vs the correct players on wet boards and the same OTR;)
~ The BTN is the most important seat for redline as aggro BTN play takes advantage of position to win a lot of pots by getting
opponent to fold. Lots of 3B'ing. Lots of floats. Exploiting the
different player types.
~ As a general rule in any hand, on flop make a plan for all streets adapting to player type depending on runout. Redline suffers by too many passive Call/Call/Fold lines that could have been Flop Fold lines
or Flop RaiseFold lines.
spot with mysterious ranges. villain is a solid player, we have also played higher
PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 159.88 BB
SB: 504.25 BB (VPIP: 16.82, PFR: 12.27, 3Bet Preflop: 6.12, Hands: 227)
BB: 133.69 BB (VPIP: 22.20, PFR: 17.69, 3Bet Preflop: 6.55, Hands: 565)
UTG: 293.06 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 20)
MP: 105 BB (VPIP: 27.64, PFR: 16.02, 3Bet Preflop: 6.08, Hands: 771)
CO: 125.5 BB (VPIP: 26.61, PFR: 18.39, 3Bet Preflop: 5.85, Hands: 1,416)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB)
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold
Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 2♦ K♠ 3♥
CO checks, Hero bets 1.94 BB, CO raises to 7.5 BB, Hero calls 5.56 BB
Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) Q♠
CO checks, Hero bets 15.19 BB, CO calls 15.19 BB
River: (51.88 BB, 2 players) 3♣
CO checks, Hero bets 30 BB, CO requests TIME, fold
Hero wins 49.56 BB
Rake paid 2.31 BB
