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10$ | 6 max | T | pre | AKo

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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

hi,

its vs the same reg as the AJo hand. He 3bets 15% in 80 occasions from the sb. Is that ok to 3bet more from the sb than from the bb? I think I have to 4bet shove or 4bet for value here. Nevertheless, I opted to call because I am ip and he 3bets a lot of hands that I dominate pre.

IPoker, $9.09 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 1,500 (75 bb)
BB: 1,500 (75 bb)
UTG: 1,500 (75 bb)
MP: 1,500 (75 bb)
CO: 1,500 (75 bb)
Hero (BTN): 1,500 (75 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K♠: A♣:
3 folds, Hero raises to 50, SB raises to 140, BB folds, Hero calls 90

Flop: (300) 7♥: 2♣: 7♠: (2 players)
SB bets 100, Hero calls 100

Turn: (500) 9♣: (2 players)
SB bets 220, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

500 pot
Final Board: 7♥: 2♣: 7♠: 9♣:
SB mucked and won 500 (260 net)
Hero mucked K♠: A♣: and lost (-240 net)

greets

maniac


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

4bet shoving is to much. Calling in position is fine, but in most cases I like to 4bet to 400 and call a 5bet shove.

Cheers,
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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yep 4bet-call pre. Thing with AK is that you tend to get good amount of folds versus active 3betting guys (not bad deal) and hand get lot of value from being able to see all 5 board cards.

In deeper stack situation you might not want to stack off even in late positions but with 75bb and low ICM it's pretty standard situation .


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

lets say I 4bet to 400 and he calls. Dont I commit myself with a cbet?

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maniac


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drinkmorewater
Joined: 26.09.2019

yes


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

if I commit myself anyway why do you raise then?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

You don't need to go quite 400 when 4betting. My sizing versus reggy player would be more like 350.

In 4bet pots with these stacks we can also go for really small cbets. After all we are repping lot of strength and stacks are shallow. But also one thing to point out is that not many regs are willing to call preflop versus 4bet oop in this spot. It's often fold or shove.

If it goes for postflop then stack depth and flop define situation and yes there can be gray areas with hand like AK. But if we have actual 4bet bluff hand like occasional A5s or KJo then it's often more clear. Or if we have one of big pockets that are good portion of our range.

PS: So if we 4bet shove we kind of have to have premium hand but if we make small 4bet we can widen that range bit more. At least versus reggy player.


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