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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by modeob
This is a good answer: Professional Attitude

To be honest, I never liked that article.

The fact of the matter is, downswings exist, and sometimes you can make all the right decisions in poker and still lose, possibly even over a larger period of time. Likening all of this to making excuses, as the article implies, is just really bad advice in my opinion. True, it's important to keep analyzing your game during downswings and stay in control of the things you can influence, but outright claiming "There is no downswing in poker - only poorly played hands" really sends out the wrong message, I believe, which may even lead some of the more inexperienced players to result-oriented thinking.

And that second part about the "popstar principle" is just embarrassing. Seriously? These are supposed to be our role-models for work ethic and professionalism? The participants of some fake, overly commercialized casting show, whose winners are completely forgotten within a few months? Frankly, you gotta respect the author's courage for even admitting that he watches that crap.

The rest in there is pretty basic advice. Nothing wrong, but nothing that hasn't been said a thousand times before either. And to be fair, it's an older article, though I doubt that any of this was groundbreaking stuff even back then.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

wow -- well spotted modeob -- that article was written in 2008, but it's still valid today.


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modeob
Joined: 16.02.2008

thanks! althoug what are saying our friend Harrier88 its someway true, i think the value of the text, the core of it, i think, that we need to stay humble and hard work, maybe sounds obvius, but i think the article can help a lot of poker player news and olds.


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baccaratboyRNMD
Joined: 24.01.2010

Bankroll Management - You should be able to separate personal from poker funds.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

A thread like https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=181760 could help as well to improve your poker game I think.


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being able to see patterns


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Folding
While it is certainly true that "You can't win if you fold", you can certainly lose a lot less.

If players can see that you fold, it gives more authority to your bets and raises.

In tournament poker, if you fold, then you still have those chips for when you do double up.
In cash games, knowing the tendencies of player will tell you when to fold and when to raise.

See Chip1992's comment above.

Welcome to PokerStrategy.com Chip1992!


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Hey, that's interesting thread, thank you, but could you give useful videos on youtube?


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elderwon
Joined: 18.12.2009

Apart from knowing the math, I think that everything in poker is a mental aspect.
BRM is plain simple, sticking to it is a mental thing (probably the easiest mental one, or so it should be...).

The main thing is putting in all the needed hard work. Popstars shouldn't be your role models no :), pro sporters should be.
There is somekind of a rule that to reach world-class level you would need to practice at least 10.000 hours. I think that might be true for poker too.
I'm a sports coach myself and from a personal experience I can say that it's hard for even a coach to keep in mind that progress takes babysteps (besides a lot of hard work). Don't expect it to go up constantly, you won't.
Every change you make will make you play worse for a short period untill you get the hang of it and only then will it get better. Accepting this is, again, a mental thing.
Keep putting in the works: a mental thing.
Not under- or overestimating an opponent: a mental thing.
Handling down- and upswings: a mental thing
Knowing your opponent and being meticulous in taking notes, being focused on him...: a mental thing
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Learning technical/mathematical concepts is the easy part (supposing one is intelligent enough), applying them right is the hard part.
In my opinion and experience I play best when I'm somewhat detached, kinda robo-style with almost no emotions. It takes away a lot of bias on the mental aspects which are oh so important.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Fantastic post elderwon


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elderwon
Joined: 18.12.2009
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msp3101
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breadbowl
Joined: 05.03.2010

Patients is the hardest skill for me to learn.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Consistency.
The older I get the more I realize this is the ONE thing that truly brings results in anything you do in life.


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LMcrow
Joined: 15.08.2006

-Consistency -
-Actually being able to see between the lines and being able to get the most value out of it (math)-
-being able to Fold hands-
-dont let variance corrupt your game-
-positive spirit, and attitude towards the game-


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Patience much luck and good strategy.
:f_biggrin:


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emiln
Joined: 05.10.2009

good strategy... patience... :f_p:


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

LMcrow, those two last points are spot on...


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GuidoDavidl
Joined: 04.04.2019

Hey guys, thanks for all those comments you're legends!


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Patience would have been my advice. I rarely find myself in a downswing from playing too tight. The opposite is true when I loosen up. There is a time to ride a win streak and a time to bunker down and play ABC winning strategy. TK suited works on a good day but loses a lot of money on a down swing.


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