Fold JJ due to so much action PF

Hello LeMahdi.

Nice fold imo. After all in from SB and call from the squeezer (BB) even being a ridiculous squeeze bet amount, on the long run folding JJ there will be +EV,
Your range to call there must be at least QQ+, and depending on villains KK+.

Originally posted by LeMahdi
It would've been a fullhouse if I hadn't fold.I folded,

Nah, Murphy's law says if you hadn't folded one would have had AA and the other KK

were the Villains 3-betting and 4-betting often? if they had been doing it frequently its not a clear fold but against real hands I think its a good fold. Your in rough shape against AA-QQ. AK,AQ is a coinflip isn't it? if they're playing anything looser than that and you think they might do this with like AJ or TT maybe call? depends on how they've been playing before this hand but usually a good fold I'd think. I don't know the EV formula stuff yet but I'm sure that would give better answer.

Originally posted by killacasey
were the Villains 3-betting and 4-betting often? if they had been doing it frequently its not a clear fold but against real hands I think its a good fold. Your in rough shape against AA-QQ. AK,AQ is a coinflip isn't it? if they're playing anything looser than that and you think they might do this with like AJ or TT maybe call? depends on how they've been playing before this hand but usually a good fold I'd think. I don't know the EV formula stuff yet but I'm sure that would give better answer.

Hello,

vs AA-QQ, AK, AQ he doesn't get enough equity to call:

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    34.19%  30.83%   3.36% { QQ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
MP3    34.20%  30.85%   3.36% { QQ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
CO     31.61%  31.48%   0.13% { JdJs }

If we add AJ then... we are blocking most of the combost and it doesn't change much.

As long as you have no reads that these 2 are just monkeys fooling around a fold here is perfect.

Originally posted by venatici

Originally posted by killacasey
were the Villains 3-betting and 4-betting often? if they had been doing it frequently its not a clear fold but against real hands I think its a good fold. Your in rough shape against AA-QQ. AK,AQ is a coinflip isn't it? if they're playing anything looser than that and you think they might do this with like AJ or TT maybe call? depends on how they've been playing before this hand but usually a good fold I'd think. I don't know the EV formula stuff yet but I'm sure that would give better answer.

Hello,

vs AA-QQ, AK, AQ he doesn't get enough equity to call:

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    34.19%  30.83%   3.36% { QQ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
MP3    34.20%  30.85%   3.36% { QQ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
CO     31.61%  31.48%   0.13% { JdJs }

If we add AJ then... we are blocking most of the combost and it doesn't change much.

As long as you have no reads that these 2 are just monkeys fooling around a fold here is perfect.

Against AK-AQ its a coinflip , I had a period in there. your in rough shape against AA-QQ ( Period here). AK,AQ vs JJ is a coiinflip. If he thinks villains would do this with AK,AQ and they have been playing wider ranges its not as easy as a fold because there are 32# combos of AK,AQ, and only 18# of AA-QQ furthermore if their ranges and 3/4bets are wider it makes AA-QQ less-likely and gives your more equity to call. If both villains had AQ-AK like what happened here they block each others outs. A good fold unless villains playing wide and often IMO