KQs calldown on QJ8csh 5c 9h fishy guy

might fold turn personally

Hey there,

Pf ok.
Flop since you have reads on the villain, calling is ok.
Turn it's easy fold for me, villain is keeping its agrresive line with those big bets and I can only see AA and KK there. Folding there will be +EV for sure.

As played, I agree with the call OTR, too much € behind to fold.
Cheers!

thx guys for your responding! Would 1/2 PS bets from villian change your decision to fold OTT?

I think the way he played the hand he had TP better kicker or better, I think he was betting every street because he was scared of the drawy board. On the river I think his small bet was because the 9 completed the straights and he didn't want to face a huge bet if he just checked. I was watching a pro anaylze hands on YT and he said when you block bet the river oop you do it to extract value from worse its not meant to try to prevent a better hand from coming over the top that bet won't stop that. its best to just check and evaluate what villain does than to put more money out there as a way to try and prevent the re-raise. I'm not sure if its 100% correct just going off what the video said it made sense at the time. I think I might have folded to the pot bet on the turn .

river bet is all-in

I also agree with the rest of the people. Turn might be a fold. River is a call given the odds.
This is the type of spot where they size their bets in such an horrible way because they're anxious to get all the chips in the middle.

Originally posted by zetozinho
I also agree with the rest of the people. Turn might be a fold. River is a call given the odds.
This is the type of spot where they size their bets in such an horrible way because they're anxious to get all the chips in the middle.

I called so his sizing was not that horrible🤦‍♂️

Originally posted by DeadMensHand

Originally posted by zetozinho
I also agree with the rest of the people. Turn might be a fold. River is a call given the odds.
This is the type of spot where they size their bets in such an horrible way because they're anxious to get all the chips in the middle.

I called so his sizing was not that horrible🤦‍♂️

His sizings throughout the hand are awful. Just because you called doesn't mean they are correct.

The problem is that our range is capped and villain his range isn't. Even if he's a fish cos he pots twice.
We do block some value combo's: QQ, AQ, QT, KK. But still.

But let's be honest, what do we actually beat? We call cos we get the price but I really wonder if people on this stake have enough bluffs in their range.
To be fair, I'd fold turn. If the turn was another heart we call with ease. Or a T maybe too.

Would u also calldown vs those big bets?
OTF and I have a flip vs a range of 2 Pair plus +Draws
OTT I have arround 35% vs same range so could be a slight call.....
Worst card ever but with the remainig stacksize I couldn't really fold anymore.

So would u guys calldown or fold OTF or OTT?

Only 2-pair hand in his pre-flop range I would give him are QJ,?, he can still have AA,KK,QQ,JJ, he isn't capped and keeps barreling pot.

When you say you have a flip versus 2 pairs and draws, what draws are we giving him? he bet out 5bb pre-flop and bet pot on the flop, its more likely I would think for him to have AA-JJ,AQ, maybe we give him QTs? for top pair plus straight draw? most of these combos have you beat. BB is still in the hand so he bet pot against 2 people. On the turn is the spot were I would be wondering what we are beating, AJcc, bet again when he picked up a flushdraw? KJcc? Maybe he thinks KT is worth betting like this with a straightdraw + k for overcard? but what is he putting you on if he had KT and he hits top pair you could have T9s, AT,
I dont think hes doing this with KT more likely he has AQ #12combos, AA-JJ #18combos and small chance of KJcc,AJ

Originally posted by killacasey

Would u also calldown vs those big bets?
OTF and I have a flip vs a range of 2 Pair plus +Draws
OTT I have arround 35% vs same range so could be a slight call.....
Worst card ever but with the remainig stacksize I couldn't really fold anymore.

So would u guys calldown or fold OTF or OTT?

Only 2-pair hand in his pre-flop range I would give him are QJ,?, he can still have AA,KK,QQ,JJ, he isn't capped and keeps barreling pot.

When you say you have a flip versus 2 pairs and draws, what draws are we giving him? he bet out 5bb pre-flop and bet pot on the flop, its more likely I would think for him to have AA-JJ,AQ, maybe we give him QTs? for top pair plus straight draw? most of these combos have you beat. BB is still in the hand so he bet pot against 2 people. On the turn is the spot were I would be wondering what we are beating, AJcc, bet again when he picked up a flushdraw? KJcc? Maybe he thinks KT is worth betting like this with a straightdraw + k for overcard? but what is he putting you on if he had KT and he hits top pair you could have T9s, AT,
I dont think hes doing this with KT more likely he has AQ #12combos, AA-JJ #18combos and small chance of KJcc,AJ

Actually I only get 39% vs his range all stright with T9s sets 2pair and TP Q9s+ QTo
I think ur are right he wouldn't bet PS without a strong made hand like JJ+ QJ+ 88 vs 2 Players.
But I wondering if he is afraid of getting outdrawn or he is trying to get max value...

Turn is a easy fold I think with in mind he has only $2,10 behind and he will shove any river card. Sometimes I would even fold pre-flop against a 5x sizing if I have reads on him he's raising big with only good hands. River is a call, because you are committed, but there aren't any hand you most likely beat he pot betting twice with.

Cheers,
SDK1987