Flush OTR in passive spot and overbetshove

Hello,

Pf ok.
Flop ok.
Turn it's ok to stab there for sure, I prefer to x/c but both are +EV.
River you overplayed your hand, if villains happen to be decent players, you won't be called by worse so.. Unless you have reads on villains that, for example, one of them is a big calling station whom might call his Ax there, that's very bad play imo. I'd continue your line and bet 2/3 pot. If raised.. It'll be very close but I think you can fold profitably there.

Cheers

8x pot overbet when there's no reason to discount all the better flushes... that's loose, yes.

If the villain had 2p on the river he’d have probably bet or raised by the river... the only hands in his range that call the jam are bigger flushes.

Not only did you give this villain a stack anytime he has you beat, you also just lost all the value you would have gained from his single pair hands.

If the villain was a super passive fish I’d make this play, but otherwise, it’s spew.

Originally posted by Torcato
Turn it's ok to stab there for sure, I prefer to x/c but both are +EV.

I thought I made a mistake there, thank you!

Originally posted by Tomaloc
8x pot overbet when there's no reason to discount all the better flushes... that's loose, yes.

True, he had better flush.

Originally posted by yadijavadi
If the villain had 2p on the river he’d have probably bet or raised by the river... the only hands in his range that call the jam are bigger flushes.

Not only did you give this villain a stack anytime he has you beat, you also just lost all the value you would have gained from his single pair hands.

If the villain was a super passive fish I’d make this play, but otherwise, it’s spew.

Thank you, I'll keep that in mind.

Thank you all for your comments:f_drink:

I think this is horrible ♦
Preflop I'd squeeze this out much more often than calling. Nevertheless, anything but folding is ok.
Flop ok. He shouldn't be betting 2nd pairs and weak TP multi-way that often btw.
Turn size is awful imo. You have enough equity, what's a big bet for? A small bet accomplishes the exact same result.
Don't even know what to say about that river. A decent size bet does the job.

You're also only posting this hand because he had a better flush, admit it ♦

Originally posted by zetozinho
You're also only posting this hand a better flush ...

It's not the only reason. I just experiment with overbet shoves. So far it worked very well, you would be surprised by what some players are able to call with.
I still do mistakes but I want to learn from them.

... admit it ♦

I did in a previous post